OU on the BBC: Inside The Medieval Mind - Belief

The Government of Nanking didn't move to Peking/Beijing until March 1912, so it is difficult to know what location to view the stars from on 11th March 1912, which is the date of the first "Provisional Constitution of the Republic of China".

At date and location of Nanjing, the Sun rose at 06:20:18am while the Nadir cut throught Alnilam (staight down from North).

At date and location of Beijing, (39*N55'44", 116*E23'18") the Sun rose at 06:23:38am while the Nadir cut through outside of the three stars of Belt of Orion....take your pick, not much difference between probable intended alignments in Nanjing or Beijing!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provisional_Constitution_of_the_Republic_of_China

The above link when clicked on appears broken, however then click on "View cached copy of page from Google" which will show page.

www.ibiblio.org/chinesehistory/contents/03pol/c01s02.html

[Moderator: links worked fine just now]

China will become the superpower of the 21st Century, lets look at the Xinhai Revolution of 1911, please scroll down link to "Wuchang uprising".

You will find that this started at around 8pm on 10th October 1911, in the city of Wuchang, Hubei, China, 30*N32', 114*E18'.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinhai_Revolution

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuchang_District

The Sun set at location on 10th Oct. 1911 at 17:32:22pm, while the Nadir, straight down from North cut through Sirius!
You will also note that Sun Yat-Sen announced the Establishment of the Republic of China in Nanking, now known as Nanjing, (32*N03'42", 118*E46'40") on 1st Jan 1912.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking

Nanking was declared the Capital at first, and was marked ancient Greek style start of day, at sunset on 31st Dec. 1911, which occurred at 17:00:29pm, as the Sun set, Alnilam was rising along the horizon in the East.....i have more on China which i will write about soon!

On Page One of this report i delve into the coups of Chile and Argentina, its about time to look at Brazil with C.I.A involvement with coups!

The Carbonari took time to get to Brazil, earlier stuff with independence and constitutions have no alignments! This changed with the 1964 Brazilian Coup D'etat.

This started on 31st March 1964, please use search engine on "1964 brazilian coup d'etat wikipedia".

There are only two cities that would have been aligned from, the capital and seat of Government, since 1960, Brasilia, or Rio de Janeiro, both have a possible intended alignment to Egyptian god stars, however Brasilia is exactly aligned to sunrise on 31st March 1964, for as the Sun rose at 06:20:39am, the Nadir straight down from South cut through Sirius!

It would be easy for you to check if i am telling lies, just buy yourself an astronomy programme and check!

Brasilia was Capital since 1960, as link will confirm:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bras%C3%ADlia

Brazils last Citizens Constitution is dated 5th Oct 1988, please scroll down link :-

I think if i remember correctly it will give link to the above coup by clicking on "1964 Brazilian Coup", under Sixth Constitution!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Brazil

When you find link to coup scroll down to "American Involvement".

Brazil's last Constitution was adopted on 5th Oct 1988, as the Sun started to rise in Brasilia on that day at around 05:55am, Sirius was culminating.

The Kapp Putsch attempt happened in Berlin on 13th March 1920.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kapp_Putsch

Sirius was just sinking in the West below horizon in Berlin at Midnight!

On his first day as chancellor, Hitler manipulated Hindenburg into dissolving the Reichstag and calling for the new elections he had wanted- to be held on 5th March 1933, aligned from Berlin.

www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/burns.htm

www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/dictator.htm

On 5th March 1933, from Berlin, the Sun rose at 06:50:47am, now scroll around astronomy programme to the Nadir or North, and mark a direct line downwards....you will find it cuts Alnilam, centre star in Belt of Orion!

Its time for me to return to the Science and Technology forum and the thread "The Lanquage of the Universe"

Please follow what i have to say, as i'm looking at the "Bobby Kennedy assassination.......the B.B.C. have interest in this, please view web-link:-

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/6169006.stm

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy_assassination

Now scroll down above link on Frankfurt Parliament to "Provisional central power"

You will note that the parliament was looking for a monarch to be a constitutional head of government, and had difficulty, however in the end Archduke Johann appointed his first government under ministerprasident Prince Karl zu Leingen on 15th July 1848,.....the Sun rose at 04:12:46am in Frankfurt, all three stars of the Belt of Orion rose with the Sun!

Some time ago i saw that in Europe there was an alignment at sunset that secret societies would love, because of the tilt of the Earth, both Alnilam and Sirius set with the Sun, i felt sure that this would have been used.....i have now found the date it was used!

The Genesis of the German parliament happened in Frankfurt am Main, 50*N07', 08*E41' on 18th May 1848, however it didn't last long!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_Parliament

This was marked at sunset of previous day, being ancient Greek day marker.......sunset happened on 17th May 1848 in Frankfurt am Main at 19:36:24pm, as the Sun set in the West, so did SIRIUS AND ALNILAM, any one want to argue?

I will continue with "Imperial constitution and basic rights" that can be found on above link, this happened on 28th March 1849, however i will be looking at sunset of previous day.

The Sun set at 18:18:39pm on 27th March 1849, scroll around astronomy programme to find South, then draw straight line upwards which will show what was culminating in the middle of the sky....you will find Sirius culminating!

I'm not attacking the first German parliament, i'm just showing that esoteric beliefs were involved, however Otto Von Bismarck regained power in Berlin, and the Parliament faded away, i wonder what would have happened if it hadn't, in 1914!

Will continue with this on next thread section.

In the early months of 1918, a political party was formed called "Free Committee for a German Workers Peace", in Bremen. Anton Drexler, an avid German nationalist, formed a branch of this league in Munich on 7th March 1918.
If this political party wasn't esoteric, then the Munich branch under Drexler was....the tell-tale signs are there!

Munich is 48*N09', 11*E35', and on 7th March 1918, the Sun rose at 06:50:04am, while the Nadir angle cut through Alnilam.

On 5th January 1919, Drexler and a group created another political party, this was the genesis of the Nazi Party, in Munich, it was called "Deutche Arbeiterpartei", and fused the Thule Society to the beginnings of the Nazi Party.

Secret societies love rare alignments at the start of the day, either at sunset, midnight or sunrise, the one they love most is aligning Jupiter to Sirius.

The day is marked at midnight on 5th January 1919 in Munich, for both Jupiter and Sirius are in a direct line, culminating in the middle of the sky.

On the same day a revolution was happening in Berlin, i'm very suspicious about this, it was called "The Spartacist Uprising, which may have been engineered to bring communists onto the streets to put down the uprising.

Okay, lets look at Anton Drexler, who was a German Nazi Political Leader of the 1920's, he was also a member of the Thule Society.....obviously conspiracy theorists will love this, but i remain unbiased, just looking at beliefs and alignments by important days, and astronomy.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Drexler

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Party

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thule_Society

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartacist_uprising

I'm not keen on National Geographic reports however this is a small part of a documentary:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y6H1_wiQsg

We will look at all this in next thread section!

At Sunrise being 05:36:10am on 6th April 1868, in Ottawa, Canada, that by marking this way the start of the day, would extend to sunrise on the 7th April, (Mcgee was assassinated in the early hours of 7th April), the Nadir, straight down from North was aligned to Sirius.

There were also others in Government that used Alnilam/Sirius symbolism, like Prime Minister (First), John A. Macdonald, however i'm not trying to connect to assassination.

Please read down link to see what John A. Macdonald was a member of:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_A._Macdonald

I'm just showing how confusing it can be with this type of symbolism, and beliefs.

D'Arcy McGee was one of the "Fathers of the Canadian Federation", and was assassinated on 7th April 1868 in Ottawa, Canada, by Patrick J. Whelan, a Fenian Sympathizer, however some cast doubt on this.

[Moderator: broken link removed]

If link doesn't work use a search engine on "D'Arcy McGee wikipedia" or use link below, scroll down to Canada, and click on name "McGee"

Link on Fenian below:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenian

I will be looking at this assassination on the next thread section!

Okay lets move on to Canada, "Canada Day, being its birthday is 1st July 1867.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada_Day

Also scroll down to the London Conference, Dec. 1866-Mar.1867, on link below:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_confederation

At midnight in Ottawa, Canada, 45*N25', 75*W42', on 1st July 1867, scroll around your astronomy programme to find the Nadir or North and draw a straight line down from this point, you we find it cuts through Sirius, with the astrologers 1* degree guide line.

The Isis-Urania Temple of the Golden Dawn was in London, it received its charter on 1st March 1888.

Llewellyn Encyclopedia deals with esoteric material, and it is mentioned on other sites.

http://www.llewellynencyclopedia.com/article/35

The Sun rose in London on 1st March 1888 at 06:50:26am, now twist your astronomy programme around to look at the Nadir, being North, you will find it cuts through Alnilam, by a straight line down!

A few years ago the B.B.C. produced a programme revealing the "100 Greatest British Heroes".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2208532.stm

As far as i know, please correct me if i am wrong, Aleister Crowley came in at number 73 by votes!

If i had voted, i wouldn't have voted for Aleister Crowley, however it shows the influence of the man by voters!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleister_Crowley

He was a member of "The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, link below:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn

He was also a member of Ordo Templi Orientis

If you have had a sheltered life please don't scroll down link to "The Hermit Triad", it may ruin you for life, Ha Ha!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordo_Templi_Orientis

Aleister Crowley's treatment of Women under his spell was awful, especially in his "Abbey of Thelema in Sicily", so why was there votes for him on the B.B.C. programme?

My next astronomy thread section will be on the Isis-Urania Temple of the Golden Dawn.....Interesting!

[Moderator: the BBC/OU are not responsible for the content of external websites]

On 28th November 1961, John F. Kennedy went to Langley, Virginia to dedicate the C.I.A's new headquarters, which came to fruition under the out-going Director, Allen Dulles.

The lat. and Long. of Langley is 38*N56', 77*W09', but if you want to use Washington D.C. as a fix it doesn't change anything, as Washington is 38*N54', 77W00'.

The Sun rose on 28th Nov. 1961 in Langley at 07:10am, while Alnilam was setting in the West along the horizon.

The Defense Intelligence Agency was formed on 1st October 1961 in Washington D.C.

Please look to right of link:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Intelligence_Agency

The Sun rose on 1st Oct. 1961 in Washington at 07:08am, now draw a straight line upwards from South, where you will find Sirius culminating!

I'm okay, slight computer problems, however i have had problems logging in with other forums....it wouldn't be the first time, however please note that i don't in any way blame the B.B.C.

The Capstone on the Washington Monument was laid on 6th Dec. 1884.

The Sun rose at 07:18am- Betelgeuse was setting at that time.

Betelgeuse is one of the great stars of the sky in religious beliefs, being one of the stars in the Orion.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betelgeuse

Sunset occurred on the day previous at 16:41:02pm on 5th Dec. 1884, while Aldebaran, Royal Persian Star was rising in the East in Washington.

The dedication date is 21st Feb. 1885, at midnight Regulus is near culmination, (Line upwards from South, Royal Persian Star).

The Obelisk was opened on 9th Oct. 1888, on 8th Oct. the Sun set at 17:34:48pm, Sirius was on the Nadir, (straight down from North, while Sun set.)

A little bit of research will tell you that originally the Washington Monument was going to be a replica of Cheops pyramid, however this was stopped as it would cost too much money.

I wont include other stars going forward as this can be confusing, i think i can get you thinking by just the Belt of Orion and Sirius.

Actually i'm leaving you to work out on the above, with religious astronomy...I'm not involved with greed, however i'm thankful of support as i'm badly dis-abled.....obviously i could write a book, that may or may not be successful!

In Support of the Egyptian stars that are used i'm leaving the four great persian stars, with a link that will perhaps help with dates of the Washington Monument, that i'm looking at next, however don't forget "Spica".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A35754654

Today the Capital of Illinois is Springfield, however when Illinois joined the Union of the United States on 3rd Dec. 1818, Kaskaskia was the Capital.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois

Please scroll down to Kaskaskia, Illinois on both links featured below:-

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Fort-Kaskaskia-State-Historic-Site

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Kaskaskia

Kaskaskia is 37*N55', 89*W54'59", i will be looking at this State on the next thread section.

Perhaps as the Seal of Illinois shows a rising Sun, this is a clue?

Obviously not only Sirius and Alnilam are used, there are a group of around 6 other stars, involving the 4 great royal Persian Stars, however not to confuse i'm just showing the Egyptian star alignments.

Kansas joined the Union on 29th Jan. 1861.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kansas

Ancient Greek day marker was used at Sunset of previous day.

The Sun set at 17:12:18pm on 28th Jan. 1861, Sirius was rising in the East in Topeka, (39*N02', 95*W41'.)

The Kansas Capitol building is in Topeka, East wing cornerstone was laid on 17th October 1866.

http://www.kshs.org/places/capitol/history.htm

At Midnight in Topeka on 17th Oct. 1866, Sirius was rising in the East along the horizon.

The State of Tennessee joined the Union on 1st June 1796, at that time Knoxville was the capital.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee

Ancient Greek method used at Sunset of previous day, Knoxville is 35*N58', 83*W56'.

On 31st May 1796 the Sun set at 19:06:05pm in Knoxville, Sirius set with the Sun in the West!

North Dakota joined the Union on 2nd November 1889, Bismarck was and still is the Capital, 46*N48'48", 100*W46'44".

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Dakota

At midnight in Bismarck on 2 November 1889, Sirius was rising in the East!

Alabama were admitted to the Union of the United States on 14th December 1819, look to right of link:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alabama

At that time Huntsville was the Capital, however by using midnight alignment based on time that was before time zones, you will find that Alnilam would culminate (straight up from South) anywhere in the State, as midnight was a local event!

Huntsville is 34*N42'44", 86*W35'47".

Texas to G.W. Bush is home turf, he was the Governor of this state, which sits in the Bible Belt of America.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas

Texas joined the Union of the United States on 29th December 1845, then as is now Austin is the Capital, look to right of link.

Austin, Texas is 30*N18', 97*W44'50".

It would seem that the ancient Greek method of starting the day was used, being sunset of the previous day.

Sunset happened at Austin, Texas, on 28th December 1845 at 17:05:55pm, as the Sun set, Alnilam was rising along the horizon in the East......anyone want to argue?

At the Battle of the Pyramids, i can't make up my mind if both sides were using esoteric Egyptian religion astrology or just the Arab side.

It would be true to all other conquests, by the Romans and Greeks, that the Arabs would be effected....both Greek and Romans were mummified as the strong Isis and Osiris religion effected them, also Sirius is mentioned in the Quran.

The battle happened in the suburbs of Modern Cairo, taking place in an area that has a few different spellings, being Embaba, Embabah, Inbaba, Imbabah, (Lat. 30*N04', Long. 31*E13'), however there is very little change if you use Cairo as a fix.

There is no doubt that the Arabs under Murad Bey chose the time of battle, as they charged Napoleon's troops at approx. 15:30pm, however Napoleon's troops had gathered just outside Cairo, so if they wanted to protect the Capital, they were forced to defend on the day that Sirius rose with the Sun in that location, Sunrise being at 05:15:58 in general area on 21st July 1798.

Obviously the time of 3:30pm of beginning of battle must only be viewed as approx., being 1798, however it is a good guide.

At 15:25pm. Alnilam was exactly setting in the West along the horizon, but as esoteric astrologers use 1 degree as a marker, Alnilam was still setting at 15:28:42pm.

On page five of my thread "The Lanquage of the Universe", on the Science and Technology forum, i explain that Dragutin Dimitrjevic used the symbolism of the "BEE", however Napoleon used the same symbol!

http://www.napoleon.org/en/essential_napoleon/symbols/index.asp

Sorry my body is badly disabled, spelling mistake, i mean "Precession".

Look up precession on a search engine associated with astronomy.

My brain hasn't a problem however!

Before i continue, i'm leaving two web-sites for you to read, very important to understanding beliefs!

They involve two reports involving a "Battle", called from history, "The Battle of the Pyramids", that involves Napoleon, very symbolic!

Most astronomers will see symbolism as Sirius is subject to Procession, so on 21st July 1798, Sirius was rising with the Sun in the general area of Cairo, but we must look further!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Pyramids

http://militaryhistory.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_battle_of_the_pyramids

We would expect, knowing Egypt's ancient religion for Sirius to be rising with the Sun during a military coup in Egypt.

However, we must note that the Coup in question was "Bloodless", which we must agree is good, King Farouk wasn't executed, although he was corrupt!

From the Location of Cairo, at 05:12:27am on 23rd July 1952, Sirius was rising with the Sun.....any astronomer wish to argue?

Today this date is celebrated as "Revolution Day", however late entry into time zones means that Sirius will rise with the Sun in Cairo occur at 06:12:43am on 23rd July 2009.

As Sirius rising with the Sun only changes time when time zones were introduced, this isn't important....it doesn't change date, however time zones change midnight alignments.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Egyptian_Revolution_of_1952

O.K., lets go back to Egypt!

If you were an army officer that was planning a coup to remove a monarch....what star would you want rising with the Sun, on the date that you had chosen in Upper Egypt, that become a successful coup?

I'm Waiting for a reply.....it is a public holiday in Egypt, and still aligned to the star!

I started looking at individual States of America on the Science and technology forum, Okay the alignment above on naming Washington D.C. happened at 18:15pm on 8th September 1791, so is aligned to Sunset.

Latitude of the Sun at Sunset in Washington D.C is important, as Washington D.C. sits at 38*N54' latitude.

San Jose, California is near this Latitude, being at 37*N18'.

Whats special about San Jose?

It was the State Capital of California on 9th September 1850, today Sacramento is the State Capital.

Whats special about 9th September 1850?

It is the date that California joined the Union of the United States.

Remember sunset, midnight or sunrise!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/California

As the Sun set at San Jose, California on 8th Sept 1850, at 18:14:17pm, the Nadir (straight down from North) cut through the Belt of Orion.

If any would argue that Sacramento was the capital during this time, please do, as it would be even more exact as Sacramento sits on the same degree's of Latitude as Washington D.C., so would be even more exact. (Lat. of Sacramento = 38*N33').

O.K. lets go back to Washington D.C.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington,_D.C.

Scroll down to find on 9th September 1791, the federal city was named in honour of George Washington.

Obviously Alnilam is subject to procession, so by 2001, this aligned two days later, within 4 minutes of time, astrologers use four minutes of time as what they call an orb of influence.

4 minutes of time =1* degree, therefore astrologers look at a star that is aligned to the Earth that is usually nearly exact, within one degree.

As the Sun set on 8th September 1791 in the building site that was to become Washington D.C., the Nadir, (straight down from North), cut through Alnilam, centre star of Belt of Orion!

The Chilean civil war started on 1st January 1891, when President Balmaceda published a Manifest to the Nation, this act was interpreted by the opposition as illegal.

We all now know our Gregorian Calendar, and if the time-zone is right with location, it aligns with a culminating Sirius!

Santiago is aligned therefore at midnight on 1st Jan. 1891, Sirius was culminating in the middle of the sky!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chilean_Civil_War

Oh yes, nearly forgot, when the Chilean constitution vote took place on 11th September 1980, the Sun was rising with Jupiter, being just over a degree apart!

So we had a military coup in Chile on 11th Sept 1924, a military coup on 11th Sept 1973, by Pinochet, and the constitution vote held on 11th Sept. 1980!

Santiago, Chile is in the Southern Hemesphere, so to see what star is culminating on these dates a direct line upwards is needed from North.

The Sun rose on 11th Sept 1980, at 06:50:55am, while the Belt of Orion was culminating, this applies to 1924, and 1973.

However we see the vote was taken on 11th Sept. 1980, but become effective on 11th March 1981.

As i always say, Sunset Midnight or Sunrise!

On the 10th March 1981 in Santiago, Chile, (33*S27', 70*W40'), the Sun set at 20:03:01pm, as the Sun set, Alnilam was culminating in the middle of sky!

The constitution was amended on July 30th 1989.

At midnight on 30th July 1989 in Santiago, Sirius was sitting on the Nadir, (straight down from South).

There seems that there are a lot of amendments, the current one dates from 17th September 2005.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Chilean-Constitution

On 16th September 2005, in Santiago, the Sun set at 18:31pm, the Nadir cut through the Belt of Orion.

Not forgetting the Coup of 11th Sept. 1924 didn't last long!

Another Coup took place on 23rd January 1925, when army troops surrounded the La Monada Palace in Santiago and arrested General Altamirano.

On 23rd January 1925, in Santiago the Sun rose at 05:00:25am, at the same time Sirius was setting in the West, these guys like aligning everything to the stars, don't they?

Any astronomer wish to argue?

Oh Dear Guest,

I wouldn't want you to think badly of me, perhaps this will make you feel better, Geronimo's descendants have now sued Skull and Bones society, so now we can only wait to see if they win in court!

Many years ago it is claimed that a bunch of Skull and Bones members dug up the skull of Geronimo, and took it back as a worthy exhibit to their H.Q. called the Tomb!

Look it up on the Web!

Both George W. Bush and John Kerry were members, should be an interesting court case.....should be coming up soon!

Evil cackle! Ha Ha!

The above information is true, however you will note the alignment is subject to the position of the Sun at sunset on 10th September 1922 in Yeravan, Armenia, and this position effects looking at Alnilam on the Nadir, so all is effected by Latititude, Yeravan sits at 40*N11' Latitude.

Oops!, New York sits on 40*N42' Latitude, so if the Belt of Orion doesn't have much creep due to procession at sunset on 10th Sept. 2001, the same rules apply, in New York...interested?

Remember the rule, Sunset, Midnight or Sunrise!

Lets go back to Chile, Pinochet wasn't the first in Chile to make 11th Sept. unsavoury!

look up "government junta chile 1924 wikipedia" on search engine....yet another 11th Sept!

This link is interesting, which will be the subject of my next thread!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Chile

Obviously i'm interested in the plebiscite vote on 11th September 1980,effective 11th March 1981, considering Pinochet came to power on 11th Sept. 1973 during a coup, i can only laugh about a plebiscite vote during this period.....however i'm also interested in amended dates of constitution....we will investigate in the next thread section!

Hi Guest,

I haven't found yet any connections to Obama.

I don't think all esoteric groups are joined, or are connected to each other, the first point i would say is to understand my research which i can go on forever giving honest information.

Actually i feel America did land on the Moon, but so much time is wasted on one small point, why bother?

My research is good for 100's of thread sections, that need adjusted level headed human analysis, the more i give, leaves odds of this happening by chance very small!

I'm trying to give this research, as a journalist, who leaves out my personal feelings as a Christian, we all have traits to try to put points from our viewpoint!

Staying with Turkey, where land and people where changed at the end of World War One, Turkey tried to stay in contact with what was before!

The Treaty of Kars was signed in Turkey on 23rd October 1921.....there are no alignments, however it was Ratified ( exchange of Contracts) in Yeravan, Armenia (40*N11', 44*E30') on 11th SEPTEMBER 1922!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Kars

At Sunset in Yeravan, Armenia, happened at 18:14:22pm on 10th September 1922, the Nadir (straight down from North), cut through Alnilam.

In this section, i'm not attacking Harry Truman, or that he was a 33 degree mason, i'm just showing this ancient esoteric belief in Alnilam or in this case Sirius.

Please read web-link:-

www.pagrandlodge.org/mlam/presidents/truman.html

Harry S. Truman was made a Sovereign Grand Inspector General 33 degree mason and honorable member of the Supreme Council (House of the Temple) in Washington D.C. on 19th October 1945.

I would be looking for an alignment in Washington D.C. at either sunset, midnight, or sunrise.

At midnight on Friday 19th October 1945, in Washington D.C., Sirius was just rising along the horizon in the East!

Any astronomer wish to argue?

On 7th December 1941, the "Land Of The Rising Sun" attacked Pearl Harbour. The nearest city is Pearl City, being 21*N24', 157*W58'.

The Sun rose on that day at 06:31am, as it rose, the Belt of Orion was setting at that location, another indicator of intended alignments would be the position of Jupiter, much valued by mystics.

As Alnilam and the Belt of Orion set, so did Jupiter (as the Sun rose!)

A couple of thread sections back i left a link to a military coup in Turkey in 1980, please return to this link, and click on the "1960 Coup" and "1971 coup by memorandum", you may find it interesting to click on "Strategy of Tension",

The Turkey Coup happened on 12th March 1971, i have aligned my astronomy programme to the Capital, Ankara.

The 1960 Turkish Coup happened on 27th May 1960, again i have aligned this to Ankara.

On 12th March 1971, at 00:00am, at Ankara, Jupiter was just rising in the East, Alnilam was just setting in the West!

On 27th May 1960, they used the Greek method of Sunset, So this happened in Ankara at 19:01:17pm on 26th May 1960.

As the Sun set in the West so did Alnilam, centre star of Belt of Orion!

Istanbul, was the Capital of the West after the fall of Rome, Constantine (Emperor), become Christian and moved the Capital.

After the First World War the Capital was Moved to Ankara on a very auspicious date being 13th October 1923, this date has been used before in construction of the White House, i'm always suspicious when i find it......it is date in history that Knights Templar always mark, on 13th October 1307 the last Grand Master of the Knight's Templar, De Molay was arrested!

http://www.templarhistory.com/demolay.html

13th October 1923 becomes sunset on 12th October 1923, by ancient Greek method, this occured in Ankara at 17:11:05pm, as the Sun set, the Nadir (straight down from North), cut through Sirius!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankara

The Treaty of Sevres was signed on 10th August 1920, Suburb of Paris, (48*N49', 02*E12'), this has to be read in connection to page five of my thread called "Language of the Universe" on the science forum, as it is about W.W.1

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_sevres

The Sun rose on 10th August 1920 at 05:42am, as the Sun rose so it Sirius!

Any astronomer wish to dispute this?

When i was writing about the "Pentagon" in an earlier thread section and its ground breaking Ceremony on 11th Sept. 1941, i left a direct link to the Pentagon website, obviously over the weeks it has been looked at, and now the "Link" doesn't work, mysteriously!

Okay try this link:-

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pentagon

After i look at Turkey, i will look at "The Washington Monument".

As a lot of these thread sections involve agreements on the First World War, please look on Page five, of the thread "The Lanquage of the Universe" on the Science Forum, for extra info.

Okay, lets move on to Turkey!

On 12th September 1980, there was a military coup in Turkey.

Ankara replaced Istanbul as the Capital City on 13th October 1923, the government sits in Ankara.....we will return to this date later!

You may say that 12th September, isn't the 11th September, and you would be right, however with all my calcalations, i have always said, these intented events are either marked by the ancient ways of marking the start of the day, (Sunset, Sunrise), midnight (modern start of day), or actual time.

The ancient Greek method was sunset, therefore 12th September 1980, becomes SUNSET on 11th September 1980!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Turkish_coup_d'%C3%A9tat

Jupiter is another factor that mystics like to align to the day!

In Ankara, Turkey (39*N56', 32*E51'), the Sun set at 19:59:33pm on 11th September 1980, The Sun set with Jupiter, the Nadir (straight down from North) cut through Alnilam, centre star of Belt of Orion!

You may notice two other coups in Turkey, shall we look at them next, 1960 Coup and the 1971 coup by memorandum?

Any astronomer wish to dispute my findings?

Firstly, lets get this straight, i'm not an idiot, what i study has taken many years, i wouldn't supply a link to a documentary, on this site connected to the BBC and Open University, if it was stupid, and the author was an idiot!

John Pilger is well known, he has won Britain's prestigious "Journalist of the year award" twice!

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Pilger

Now watch this documentary by John Pilger.

Click on arrow to start documentary.

It is 1 hour 33 minutes long!

Get comfortable to watch it!

I'm very interested in Duanne Clarridge(Cia Chief, Latin America 1981-84), who appears as the grey haired gentleman around the one hour, one minute, and continues through the last half hour....doesn't he make you go very cold?

http://www.videosift.com/video/The-War-On-Democracy-by-John-Pilger

The Capital of Chile is Santiago, ref. 33*S27', 70*W40'.

On the Morning of 11th Sept 1973, the military coup took place, the Sun rose at 06:51:18am, as it rose the Belt of Orion was culminating!

The Coptic Calendar date of New Year is very important to esoteric astrologers, being 11th Sept. in our era, with hermetic beliefs.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_calendar

Anyone want to dispute that 11th Sept. is New Year in the Coptic Calendar, and this is a remnant of the ancient Egyptain calendar that has existed for 5,000 years!

Santiago is in the Southern Hemesphere, so to look at what is culminating in the middle of the sky, a direct line upwards is needed from North, as the Sun rises.....any astronomer wanna say i'm wrong?

Is there any other military coups aligned to 11th Sept?

Any one want to bet there isn't?

Stefano Delle Chiaie was a friend to Licio Gelli, the Master of P-2, scroll down to Operation Condor, where you will see that Stefeno Delle Chiaie become close with Augusto Pinochet in Chile.

He was involved with Klaus Barbie.

www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefano_Delle_Chiaie