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BRIAN COX

The absolute, absolute, consensus is that human action is leading to an increase in average temperatures-- absolute consensus. I know you may try to argue with that, but you can't.

MALCOLM ROBERTS

No, no, not might, I will.

BRIAN COX

But the key point is can we respond to it? Do we have the political institutions and the political will and the organisation globally to respond to this challenge? And that worries me immensely. I don't think we do at the moment.

MALCOLM ROBERTS

And I'm absolutely stunned that someone who is inspired by Richard Feynman, a fantastic scientist who believes in empirical evidence, is quite in consensus.

BRIAN COX

Can I just, I just... I brought the graph, right?

[LAUGHTER, APPLAUSE]

MALCOLM ROBERTS

First of all, that the data has been corrupted, and we know that the 1930s were warmer than today--

BRIAN COX

What do you mean by corrupted? Corrupted, what do you mean, corrupted?

MALCOLM ROBERTS

Been manipulated.

BRIAN COX

By whom?

MALCOLM ROBERTS

By NASA.

BRIAN COX

NASA??

MALCOLM ROBERTS

By the C, uh-- yes.

As far as I'm concerned, politics should be based on empirical evidence. All policy should be based on empirical evidence. I've heard consensus, which is not science. I've heard appeals to authority, which is not science. I've heard various--

BRIAN COX

You've seen a graph.

MALCOLM ROBERTS

Hang on. I've heard.

LINDA BURNEY

I'm--

BRIAN COX

Hang on. Throw you the evidence.

[APPLAUSE, LAUGHTER]

LINDA BURNEY

[INAUDIBLE].

MALCOLM ROBERTS

Hang on, hang on. Hang on, Brian.

BRIAN COX

This is a serious thing.

MALCOLM ROBERTS

You showed me a graph...