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PERSON 1

Power relations are everywhere. So every time we interact with somebody else, power relations are apparent in the interactions. It doesn't mean that the people interacting are conscious of those power relations, but they are evident if you analyse the interactions. And so power relations are also evident at a broader social level, societal level, so that one can think about everybody being positioned within society in relation to power. And those relations are shifting.

PERSON 2

Power permeates everything. It permeates everything that we do. I think it permeates every relationship we have with somebody else. There are these complex networks of power going on. And also that the power is not necessarily a good thing or a bad thing. There's nothing inherently good or bad in power, it's what you do with it and what the effect of exercising power is.