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PHIL

When she got into her teens and early 20s, she was at a centre. And they used to do industrial work. So I think it's what they used to call it.

A lot of people in the country actually did industrial work then, factory work. But Bernadette used to do a bit of that assemblies and that was then later frowned upon as demeaning for Down syndrome people. But actually, Bernadette never regarded it as that. She loved it.

And it's a self-worth thing because she could do that. And it also gave her and I another thing to talk about. My dad always use to quote a story. We were talking and I said to Bernadette, how have you been getting on at work? Because she used to make different things.

So, what have you been making this week? So we had a chat and that was nice. And then she said to me, what have you been doing at work today? So it gave us that common ground.