# Transcript

[TYPING]

WOMAN:

Right, because she she-- sorry, because she said that she'd [INAUDIBLE] and she discussed--

JAMES:

So basically, what's happened is that granddad was downstairs, asked her to snuggle. And then she's gone on to disclose that he's got his bits out and touched her, as well. She's become quite upset about this. There's no indicator to say that she's not going to be age-appropriate to be videoed. She's made what seems like a reasonably clear disclosure. What I'll do is I'll ask the social worker to start doing an assessment, because then we know what we're looking for as much as you do, really.

CASSIE:

All right. Thanks, bye-bye.

JAMES:

Cassie--

CASSIE:

Yep?

JAMES:

Have you spoken to the school?

CASSIE:

She is busy and will call us back. She's got contact details of the mum, in terms of telephone number. But both of the girls are in school.

JAMES:

Right. OK, the police are going to try and arrange so we can take this girl up for a video interview. The problem is, they won't be able to see this girl to prep her, which may be a bit difficult. So what we've got to work out is A) how this girl's doing emotionally, and whether she's able to go through video interview. What I suggest you do is give mum a call.

CASSIE:

Yep.

JAMES:

Check she's OK. Go through the process and the procedure. Talk to her about the video interview. Clearly, she done the right thing. It's important that these children don't go and have contact with anyone in the family.

[TYPING]

CASSIE:

My name's Cassie and I'm a social worker up at Boardwalk. Hi. Are you able to talk right now? Yeah. I'm just ringing you about, obviously, the referral that's come through. Yeah, I just wanted to ask you a few more questions is that's OK. We're trying to make an assesment as to whether it would be appropriate or not. And whether she would be able to talk to a police officer, obviously with yourself present. And the police officers are trained to speak to children and to gain the evidence, really. And do you think she'd be able to do that? Yeah? Does she have any special educational needs or anything? Is she-- no? OK. And there's no reason that you would think that she would-- that it's not appropriate for her to do that? Yeah, if you ring up and say you wanted to speak to a duty social worker, it will be either myself or Vicki today. OK? And somebody will be in touch with you later on today. All right. No worries, speak to you later. All right. Bye. Oh. Poor lady.

WOMAN:

She hasn't said that bit? OK.

JAMES:

I don't actually want to give you this case, because I think you've got too many cases at the moment. So it may be-- it would be better if perhaps, Vicki picked it up. I think you've got more space than Cassie to pick this up at the moment.

VICKI:

Yes, thank you, James.

JAMES:

So it's going to be my gift to you.