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Emma Harris

Emma Harris
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Post 1

4 February 2020, 11:30 AM

Open Access (Assignment 4)

Share your thoughts with the other participants, and feel free to ask questions!

Marc Jofre Post 2 in reply to 1

10 February 2020, 3:05 PM
Emma Harris

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Post 5 in reply to 2

11 February 2020, 10:31 AM

Have you published anything Marc? Are you planning to?

Tammy Shadbolt

Tammy Shadbolt Post 3 in reply to 1

10 February 2020, 5:32 PM

Useful info and videos. I don't much experience of publishing in journals yet but do use creative commons. 

Emma Harris

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Post 4 in reply to 3

11 February 2020, 10:30 AM

Hi Tammy

Well hopefully these modules will prepare you for when you do publish. What do you use the CC for? 

Tammy Shadbolt

Tammy Shadbolt Post 8 in reply to 4

12 February 2020, 2:50 PM

Creative commons

I use creative commons mostly for creating learning materials and lecture presentations for academic teaching purposes.

Gimeno Antonio Post 6 in reply to 1

11 February 2020, 11:25 PM

Very useful videos about the CC!

I became aware of the importance of publishing in OA only a few years ago because of the EC policy, and have published all my papers in OA since then. The bad part is that we have to allocate a substantial part of our year budget to pay for all the APCs.

Emma Harris

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Post 7 in reply to 6

12 February 2020, 10:58 AM

Yes the costs of Open Access are a real negative. Still is good that you have published so much as OA. 

Ivan Martin Hernandez Post 9 in reply to 1

12 February 2020, 3:05 PM

As someone that have just jump outside of the university, I think that one of the biggest barriers of the Open Access is the lack of communication with students. Most of us have hear only the name of Open Access or Open Science, but there are not much iniciatives where students can get involved and adapt. So most of us enter in a group and try to learn everything by imitation.

I think that the best way to change the way to produce scientific product or the comunication of the result of the researchs is from bot to top, triyng to involve students from the beginning with a similar content to what this MOOC offers.

Andrea Troncoso Post 10 in reply to 9

12 February 2020, 9:18 PM

Totally agree!


Emma Harris

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Post 12 in reply to 9

13 February 2020, 10:31 AM

Yes that is very true. I think it is no good expounding Open Science principles without providing the skills and tools to make practical changes in researchers' work life. 

Andrea Mulder Post 26 in reply to 9

17 February 2020, 7:22 PM

I agree as well. For me personally, I am already a bit lost in the world of conventional publishing as this was never much discussed, so Open Access is completely unknown territory. To offer students the know-how and tools to work with Open Access would be a great step forward. And maybe a bit more highlighted than accidentally running into a MOOC on the subject like I did :-) 

Matias Policani Barrios Post 11 in reply to 1

12 February 2020, 10:40 PM

I found the videos and infographics very useful. I believe one of the main obstacles in my country for publishing in Open Access ara APCs, there are several journals in latin america that publish Open Access without charging APC however the pressure of publishing in high impact journals forces researchers to find a way of cover those charges. Most of them include the costs of APCs in their applications for grants however APCs may change over time.

Emma Harris

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Post 13 in reply to 11

13 February 2020, 10:35 AM

I think the whole scientific system needs to reassess how much costs prohibit people from joining conversation even within Open Access. In my opinion, it is bizarre in a digital society that there are limitations on sharing knowledge. 

Carlota Farre Diaz Post 14 in reply to 1

13 February 2020, 9:45 PM

Very nice explanations and videos. Thank you!

Emma Harris

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Post 15 in reply to 14

14 February 2020, 8:42 AM

You are most welcome.

Marie Weiel-Potyagaylo Post 19 in reply to 15

16 February 2020, 5:59 PM

I also enjoyed the videos very much! They are so informative and make it possible to get known to and learn important aspects in open access publishing from scratch and in a structured way. Last year, I got my first paper published in the open access journal PLoS Computational Biology. It took almost a year from first submission until final publication, which I found rather long at this time as a "fresh" PhD student - until I learned from others that this is quite normal and things even went quite smooth for my paper. However, I for sure was not aware of the intricacy and complexity of publishing one's scientific results, in particular with respect to the "dilemma" of open science and the current reward system prevalent in science, and only got a rough idea of it during my first paper. Since then, I started to dive deeper into this topic and had several discussions with my PI and some colleagues, as I have to decide for a journal for my next paper in the next three months. One of them recommended me to sign up for this course and I am looking forward to the next weeks!

Mireia Tomas Post 16 in reply to 1

15 February 2020, 11:47 AM

Extremely clear and informative video on CC. Thank you! Appreciate it and share most of the comments and ideas I have read in this forum. First time for me learning about CC and find OA journal publishing expensive and its objective not yet understood by the scientific community. Let's improve this with courses like this one. Thanks again!

Emma Harris

Emma Harris Post 22 in reply to 16

17 February 2020, 9:35 AM

So glad it is useful to you!

Carlos Marto Post 17 in reply to 1

15 February 2020, 10:03 PM

For my experience, one of the main limitations of publishing open access is that some institutions lack the funding for that. In my research groups we have published open access some times, but others we don´t have funding available for that, so we need to publish in the traditional option. 

Emma Harris

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Post 23 in reply to 17

17 February 2020, 9:37 AM

Yes I agree the costs are the major problem with OA. Some institutions now have funds allocated usually via the library and more and more funders are including money for OA publishing but the burden still lies far to often with the researchers. 

Mafalda Laranjo Post 30 in reply to 17

23 February 2020, 7:40 PM

Totally agree.

Jennifer Kirwan Post 18 in reply to 1

16 February 2020, 5:25 PM

Open access publishing - check the licence

I'd like to share with the group a recent discussion I had with someone at a conference. They had published a paper with an open access journal under a standard open access licence agreement - and paid for the privilege of doing so. They were then contacted by another researcher who alerted them to a second publisher in a different country who were using their paper word-for-word in a book without their permission. There was no commercial bar in the creative comments agreement they had signed and since the publisher was acknowledging them as authors, there was nothing they could do to stop the publisher reselling their work with no benefit to themselves. Nor did they have the right to refuse permission for the publisher to use the work in this way.

To be clear, I don't think this is a problem with open access, but it has made me more alert to understanding the different types of licencing available.

Emma Harris

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Post 24 in reply to 18

17 February 2020, 10:01 AM

Thank you for sharing that, it is a great example of why researchers, and indeed everyone who creates anything, need to have a clear understanding of licencing. Licencing is a way to protect your work from situations like the above. Unfortunately, it is not widely taught.  

Esther Marin Gonzalez Post 27 in reply to 24

18 February 2020, 11:19 AM

Hello Emma,

Considering the experience shared by Jennifer, and in order to avoid those kinds of 'predatory' practices, what would be your suggestion? Should research articles include a CC-BY-NC licence?

Can you provide an example of how SA and ND licences work when applied to research articles?

Thank you!

Emma Harris

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Post 29 in reply to 27

20 February 2020, 2:59 PM

Hi Esther 

Those are really good questions, I am going to ask one of the contributors on the course who is an expert in licensing to write you a reply. I have a few ideas but I would rather get you 100% correct information. 

Emma Harris

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Post 31 in reply to 27

25 February 2020, 1:58 PM

Hi Esther

This is what our licences expert Katarzyna Biernacka said: 

Of course it would be an option to include a CC-BY-NC license on that article in order to avoid those kinds of „predatory“ practices, but then you have to  be aware of the consequences of it:

- non of your colleagues or a freelancer would be allowed to use your materials (e.g. the article) in a workshop where the participants have to pay for the participation (commercial workshop)

- you would not be allowed to put your material on website that provides advertisements (commercial use of  the website)

- your article cannot be printed in a journal that provides advertisements

- e.g. General medical practitioners are therefore not allowed to use NC-licensed medical material without an individual agreement

- it means that a reader must still obtain your specific permission to adapt the work and/or use it for commercial purposes

The CC-BY-NC is a very restrictive license and therefore not used in terms of Open Science / Open Access.

You have the same situation with CC-BY-ND. You allow people to reuse your material but not to change it. This means that your article is not allowed to be translated; that your pictures can’t be scaled or cropped; that your spreadsheet cannot be merged with another spreadsheet to revise an algorithm; there cannot be parts taken out, e.g. just one slide of the whole presentation (as it already is a change). You allow just to use it as it is.

CC-BY-SA is still restrictive as it makes the re-user to use the same license. But this one, in contrast to the two other ones, is still seen as corresponding to the Open Science idealogy as you allow to do anything with your material as long as you’re cited and the re-user uses EXACTLY the same license (CC-BY-SA).

As an author of an article you have to decide what is most important to you. Do you want your research to be available and re-useble all over the world? Do you want to enable other researchers to work on your results and spreading the knowledge? Or do you want to keep your findings to yourself? However you decide, whatever license you choose (maybe except of CC0) you will be always cited as the author and get the credits.

Esther Marin Gonzalez Post 32 in reply to 31

21 March 2020, 10:35 AM

Dear Emma, 

Many thanks for sharing Ms.Biernacka's reply. This is exactly the kind of examples I was looking for. She has solved many of my doubts about the consequences of using one or another type of licence when applied to research articles.

Thank you!

Esther




Natacha Klein Kafer Post 20 in reply to 1

16 February 2020, 9:33 PM

Challenges in other fields

Coming from the humanities, I feel like my field is lagging in terms of using preprints. We get too attached to our ideas and fear too much that others might steal them. That, on top of the lack of collaboration in general, is leaving us quite isolated in the research process. I hope to learn here from the Life Sciences about the best tools and arguments to convince my peers of the importance of collaborative research and OA publishing.

Emma Harris

Emma Harris Post 21 in reply to 20

17 February 2020, 9:34 AM

I also come from the humanities originally and I understand the issues you describe perfectly. In a way I think it is harder in humanities because your idea (theory or textual reading) can all you have, in the life sciences you have data and experiments which it is not so easy for someone to 'steal'. It is great that you are joining us to find out more and feedback to your peers. 

Here is some extra information for Social Sciences and Humanities on Open Science:  

https://www.fosteropenscience.eu/content/open-science-ssh-researchers

https://operas.hypotheses.org/2785

Guillermo del Riego Post 25 in reply to 1

17 February 2020, 10:31 AM

Emma, this first week has been really useful to me. I'm in charge of Responsible Research and Innovation in my institution and it's never easy to get fellow scientist to acknowledge the benefits of going OpenAccess.

Emma Harris

Emma Harris Post 28 in reply to 25

20 February 2020, 2:54 PM

Pamela Kelly Post 33 in reply to 28

20 June 2020, 6:00 PM

Open Access

Hi all. 

I am enjoying the course so far, thank you for all the work you put in Emma.

 I know the cost of Open Access can be ridiculously expensive but if you have your article open access is it more likely to cited then if it is not open access? If it increases the chances of it being cited more than it would be worth it in the long run in relation to grants and promotion etc... 

Pamela

Pamela Kelly Post 34 in reply to 33

28 June 2020, 5:19 PM

The system is not recognizing that I have commented and completed the assignment. Hopefully it will work this time.