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20 October 2016, 4:30 PM Edited by Matthew Driver on 21 October 2016, 9:15 AM

Week 2, Activity 2 Valued leadership in the voluntary sector

In relation to the voluntary sector, is there a particular kind of leader who seems to be valued over other kinds of leaders? What do they look like and how do they behave? Are these leader characteristics a good thing, a bad thing or somewhere in between (and why)?

After reflecting on the above questions, post your thoughts. It would also be helpful to our community if you responded to the thoughts of at least two of your fellow learners.


Gail Pussard Post 2 in reply to 1

1 November 2016, 12:48 PM Edited by the author on 1 November 2016, 12:49 PM

The voluntary sector is quite broad and therefore I do not believe there is a one-size-fits all model. The leader must express passion for the vision, mission and values of the organisation. Some organisations seem to require the charismatic individual who fronts the organisation whilst others prefer a more collegiate approach.

Caleb Rowan Post 6 in reply to 2

10 November 2016, 11:31 AM

That's interesting because I have seen a good example of leadership where someone felt able to challenge the VMV, which can be an upstream struggle. I think there is championing the purpose but also wanting the purpose to be as good as it can be,

Steven Walker Post 98 in reply to 2

6 November 2019, 8:31 PM

I would agree that passion for the vision is definitely an important factor. You need to be able to sell what you are doing to those who are volunteering or donating with genuine sincerity.

Claire Cochrane Post 3 in reply to 1

9 November 2016, 8:11 PM

I would like to present two 'leaders' that I have worked with;

A - Valued for his/her intelligence, knowledge of the specialist subject, knowledge of the sector, passion for delivering the vision and mission of the organisation. Encourages team input and discussion, doesn't make snap decisions or react hastily to 'crisis'. Looks like you and me, treats others as equals and doesn't sit comfortably as a 'leader'.

B - Makes decisions and takes bold steps. Has specialist knowledge of the sector not necessarily the subject. Doesn't necessarily involve team in initial conversations but is constantly moving forward and taking action. Looks like you and me, leads comfortably and with authority.

There are pros and cons to both obviously - 'A' inspires in certain areas but may be seen to lack authority and may seem indecisive. 'B' is valued for driving forward and taking action but may be viewed as dictatorial in approach.

A little from 'A' and 'B' is required for effective performance though in my experience the louder personality tends to dominate and become 'big chief'.

Owain Smolovic Jones Post 4 in reply to 3

10 November 2016, 11:03 AM

Wow Claire, you're streaming ahead. I recognise your A&B, for sure. 

I'm intrigued by this statement: "the louder personality tends to dominate and become 'big chief' ... Suggests a more masculine and macho environment in the sector than an outsider might expect ...

Claire Cochrane Post 9 in reply to 4

16 November 2016, 8:44 PM

It was an unintentional to present a masculine persona but obviously 'big chief' is unavoidably macho. Interesting how ingrained 'big man leader' is!  What's interesting to me though is that the person I had in mind was female. 

Andrew Bullock Post 8 in reply to 3

11 November 2016, 10:08 AM
Your leader A is nearer the leader that I would prefer to work with. Often they can be very effective if there is a good implementer on their team who can translate their ideas into practicalities. 

Your leader B would be ideal if they take on ideas from other individuals may not correspond to their own ideals.

Hayley Bennett Post 33 in reply to 8

30 March 2017, 4:59 PM

I echo your thoughts, Andrew. I think the point that Christine Pearce made about having as many diverse people and their ideas influencing the work she does is very inspiring. However, I do also believe that a leader would need to pick the right time for these ideas to come into play in order to be effective. It can be really tempting for people at the top to progress things without giving others who have expertise to share their ideas as it can prolong a process. At the end of the day, the leader also has the responsibility of making the team feel valued. Getting the balance is very tricky. 


Clare Reeve Post 82 in reply to 33

22 September 2019, 6:44 PM

I agree that some leaders who are can see the need for change and driven to deliver that, can, due to their desire to get things done quickly to deliver better outcomes quickly, can risk dis-engaging the teams.  They may feel undervalued if not consulted, frustrated by being by-passed, but sometimes that is necessary to move a solution forward quickly.  Consultation and collaboration can be a real drain on time and slow things down.  I agree its a difficult path to tread

Emma Corcoran Post 55 in reply to 8

26 October 2017, 3:46 PM

I agree. I also think that a lot of people in the voluntary sector consider this sort of work their "calling", regardless of whether they consider themselves to be a leader, so it is often important to involve all team members in decision making in order to make the individuals in the team feel as though they are still making a difference.

Kate Martin Post 12 in reply to 3

20 November 2016, 10:34 AM

Hi Claire - I love this!  Really resonates with my experience of some of the leaders I work with.

Nadeem Akhtar Post 24 in reply to 3

12 February 2017, 3:57 PM

I think Group B always prevails and appreciated. But in this case the leader put himself in vulnerable postion.

I am going to write that in practice 'person' always matter and person always want to take everything in control. 

Marta Bruschi Post 28 in reply to 3

25 March 2017, 11:48 AM

I had a similar experience regarding the leaders I worked with and I agree that the mix of both is a good mix. I think that the most important feature if it comes to leaders in the third sector is working towards organisations missions and vision and being collaborative and being able to work with a team. I recognise though that a leader who is not able to make quick decisions in a decisive moment will also jeopardize the organization's functioning. 

Alison Moody Post 41 in reply to 28

6 April 2017, 4:39 PM

Leaders

I agree leaders need a good mix of traits.  Also be self-aware enough to realise that the contribution of others or someone else entirely may be required at times.  Also whilst checks and balances need to be in place, so processes must be followed, slow decision making can become de-motivating for staff.  This is especially true if staff are not party to the reasons behind delay in decisions etc.

Marilyn David Post 93 in reply to 41

5 October 2019, 11:10 PM

 Alison, I agree with your comment. Processes need to be followed and slow decision making can be detrimental to both staff and the organisation. 

Hayley Bennett Post 34 in reply to 3

30 March 2017, 5:01 PM

Claire - thank you so much for sharing this.

One thing that I have noticed is that for both A and B you have said "looks like you and me". I am trying to visualise what that actually looks like or do you simply mean someone who is not detached from every day people and is relatable? 

Kate Honeyford Post 43 in reply to 3

3 May 2017, 1:39 PM

louder leaders

I agree with your comments to a certain extent - but I do believe the ability to convince others you are worth following is a leadership .

I have also worked with a quiet and capable and unassuming leader who had been around the (wider  local scene for years ) they were well thought of because of their apparent quiet capability and effectiveness and they were a better sustainer than initiator or inspirer. 

In this case however it was the apparent reliability of this leader that caused others, including his board, not to question him ; ultimately that led to difficulties because no one should and can lead alone - the Milton Keynes CEO said that - we think best when we are likely to be challenged because then we seek and listen to other opinions before forming our own

I thought as I was reading about Camilla Batmanghelidjh that her popularity seemed to be highest with people outside the voluntary sector and outside her own organisation - it seems trustees lost faith some time before the outside world did -  this matches my experience that a leader needs certain qualities qualities when setting up an organisation and different ones to sustain it.  

Some of the really charismatic, larger than life influencing skills are also common to fraudsters and sales people - ie the ability to believe ones inventions and to be everything to everyone. 


 

Clare Reeve Post 83 in reply to 43

22 September 2019, 6:50 PM

I completely agree with Kate's comment about different leadership styles for different stages of an organisation's development.  Personal connection, passion and enthusiasm are so important at the outset, charisma in spades will help with income generation and support.  However, if there are tough times, financial hardship and a growing deficit, a more business like leadership style, with possibly less emotional connection, will help steer the ship more safely

Nia Crouch Post 47 in reply to 3

26 May 2017, 3:08 PM

I think these two examples are a useful way of trying to draw out similarities and differences within 'leaders' across the voluntary sector. I am interested that both leaders have specialist knowledge, though in different areas, and wonder if all leaders have a specialist knowledge prior to taking leadership?

Kate Honeyford Post 50 in reply to 3

9 June 2017, 1:30 PM

I agree Clare,  I think that people can't really decide what they want from leaders -at some times they want charismatic, passionate  leaders with heart who get noticed, people want to listen to them and get inspired.  At other times they want someone who keeps making forward progress - maybe this is about whether the overriding wish is to change something or if it is to manage the status quo -  voluntary sector in theory is all about changing things but in reality a lot of organisations do not really try to change anything, just reduce the worst effects on any group . 


 In the advice world we protest at policies and their impact -we don't ask that the whole benefits system is replaced by a universal wage and progressive

Jessica Meale Post 63 in reply to 3

13 April 2018, 9:50 AM Edited by the author on 13 April 2018, 9:51 AM

I completely agree with you Claire. In my experience, I have worked with both.  What I have sometimes found is that my direct line manager could be person A but then their manager may be a B type, which unfortunately can over-ride those great traits in person A.  I think a mixture of both is great, as you need someone more like person B to drive the strategy forward, but that person also need to allow those who possess more leadership qualities the space to actually lead the team as a leader and not necessarily as a manager. I suppose what I'm saying in my experience is that a Director/CEO will possess more of the Manager traits, whereas their team, ideally, will possess more of the leadership traits. 

Greg Stenson Post 68 in reply to 3

17 September 2018, 2:45 PM

Totally agree with this Claire!

Sandy Campbell Post 104 in reply to 3

20 January 2020, 12:42 AM

I find the descriptions of both leaders interesting and do believe that there needs to be flexibility in the approach that a leader uses and a healthy balance of a and be would be good. One that encourages others, yet isn't afraid to be bold for the vision of the organisation but it not dogmatic. 

Caleb Rowan Post 5 in reply to 1

10 November 2016, 11:29 AM

I would say we value leaders who take an active interest in the work and welfare of their team; but also don't micromanage, who focus on empowering people to achieve their own goals and so develop themselves. People talk positively about these kinds of behaviours.

Alison Moody Post 42 in reply to 5

6 April 2017, 4:41 PM

Agree that these are positive traits.  Being able to let go and enable others to get on with things is also essential.

Emma Corcoran Post 56 in reply to 5

26 October 2017, 4:19 PM

I think this is a good point. It's a very difficult balance to get, but when there is a leader who takes an interest in your work/development whilst still allowing a degree of independence people are extremely receptive.

Julie Cooper Post 88 in reply to 5

29 September 2019, 6:54 PM

I agree with Caleb, leaders who empower their teams not only give them the opportunity to learn and develop but also to feel accountable for the decisions they make.


Fidele Mutwarasibo Post 89 in reply to 88

1 October 2019, 11:41 AM

Accountability, shared leadership and empowering others within our organisations to lead is very critical in the voluntary sector and beyond.

Steven Walker Post 99 in reply to 5

6 November 2019, 8:34 PM

Yes I think you are definitely right on this point. This kind of leader needs to understand what the volunteers want from the process and motivate them by meeting their needs. 

Andrew Bullock Post 7 in reply to 1

11 November 2016, 9:56 AM

I believe we value leaders that who we know have a passion for the organisation. Leaders that can increase the membership and revenue streams or the organisation by promoting and publicising the organisation are also valued particularly by bigger organisations. These leaders are confident charismatic leaders that have persuasive characteristics. Having a real passion for the organisation is a must although it can be a problem if this passion clouds judgments of difficult decisions. Having very charismatic and persuasive leaders in a voluntary organisation can be bad if there is no one else in the organisation that is able to offer other views or "stand up" to that individual. This is when a much more collaborative approach to leadership is required.

Owain Smolovic Jones Post 14 in reply to 7

23 November 2016, 8:09 AM

Can that kind of a confident charismatic direction come from a group, from below, as well as from the top?

Ruth Leonard Post 17 in reply to 14

30 December 2016, 4:27 PM

I think there can be a direction from a group beneath and this group will need to invest the time in building up a sense of trust with the nominal leader and all be clear about what each party is bringing to the role so no-one feels threatened or overlooked. To be able to lead from the centre - adapting and incorporating from those around you, recognising the qualities everyone can bring would seem a powerful position

Sally Reith Post 21 in reply to 17

3 February 2017, 2:56 PM

I think the point about team work is really interesting and relevant.  It's exactly what I wrote down for this exercise.  When reflecting on which traits are good / bad / or don't really matter i think it's vital to consider the people around the leader in question.  Last week we looked at the idea of leadership (i.e. leadership not being 'owned' by anyone but being more of a continuous journey for everyone) as a 'team sport' and I think the traits of the head / director etc of an organisation are important but how important depends on those traits of the other leaders in the organisation.  Nobody is superhuman or expert in everything or has the skills in every area necessary so it is about recognising your expertise and ensuring gap's can be adequately filled by those around you - remember the person in the video talking about taking holidays.

Kate Honeyford Post 44 in reply to 14

3 May 2017, 1:44 PM

If leaders listen and are not afraid of challenge - a culture change has come about in our organisiation from the bottom - sort of - not staff at the bottom but member organisations- we used to tell them how to do things - protest became louder and louder -eventually people at the top listened and started to collaborate and listen and work with members. 


I am not near enough to the action to know if there were individual leaders in the organisations at the head of the protest but it was clear it was a small number of organisation who kept making their point until it was listened too and often they did not do it nicely. 

Clare Reeve Post 84 in reply to 14

22 September 2019, 6:53 PM

Definitely - from within as well as from the top.  Many great ideas and solutions come from within the teams and those individuals can most ably bring colleagues, above as well as below, on the journey and lead a particular path

Genevieve Rudd Post 10 in reply to 1

18 November 2016, 1:58 PM

I think the point in the reading about Camila Batmanghelidjh living modestly captures the hearts of individuals, funders and governments because running a business in the third sector is seen as a compassionate and benevolent act driven by an emotional response. 

The principle of business, whether not for- or for profit, are relatively similar -- to increase, grow, improve ones services, whatever they may be. Of course, this is a very simplistic view that doesn't pay notice to the use of profits, role of directors etc. and other factors.  However, if we look at the etymology of the word 'charity' we find works such as 'compassion', 'unconditional love' and 'generous' being used. So from this, I'd argue that charitable businesses are set apart from other businesses on a personal emotional level. 

Batmanghelidjh's lifestyle confirms this saintly act and these characteristics are desirable in charity sector leaders. If she was to live on the salary (and bonuses!) awarded for other non-charitable business leaders/CEOs she would be lambasted and it would be seen as unethical. Working on a small budget is the norm for the charitable sector - is this because of the emotional connection? That doing a good deed shouldn't be a job but a mission or a life-cause? I believe leadership roles often reflect this, as embodied in Batmanghelidjh. To be modest and self-sacrificing is desirable. 

Yet (and quite rightly in my opinion!) the interview video with Chief Exec Christine Pearce talks openly about her clear work-life balance when she talks about her time away on holiday. Perhaps Batmanghelidjh made a trap for herself by becoming such a strong figurehead for the charity. Pearce's approach seems to be about building the charity as a brand, spread across the 'leaders' in the company, including the service users. 

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 13 in reply to 10

21 November 2016, 3:51 PM

Hi Genevieve

Really interested to read your comment on the interview with Christine Pearce and her line on sharing leadership and holding boundaries.  Of course, this raises the question as to whether this is the approach to leadership that appears to be valued more widely - for example in the voluntary sector press, not to mention the wider media.  Or is there a tendency to reinforce the lone hero stereotype?

Carol

Sally Reith Post 22 in reply to 13

3 February 2017, 3:05 PM

I agree with your question Carol but am not sure there's an obvious answer.  I guess not everyone (including the media) is able to take such a critically developed view of leadership as we are unpicking here.  I think traditional views of leadership as one person prevail in much of wider society and media so through that the idea of a supernatural / superhuman leader is projected and perpetuated.  This may present a challenge for organisations for whom media coverage is vital (to bring in support, donors, awareness, beneficiaries, volunteers....) whereby they do not seek to challenge this interpretation as the media can be so quick to turn against us. So often organisations start their own annual reports with a welcome from the CEO / MD / Chair by way of humanising their organisation and the work they do. Perhaps it also relates to the idea that we are human and so often seek inspiration from role models etc.  

Nadeem Akhtar Post 23 in reply to 22

12 February 2017, 3:52 PM

I peronally observe that in most cases 'person' always plays vital role and the whole organisation rvolve around him/her. I am working in local organisation which always inluenced by Chairman and board of directors, on some occasions if someone tried to contradict he never given any attention.

Marta Bruschi Post 30 in reply to 23

25 March 2017, 11:57 AM

 The role of the board is not prevailing on decisions but to advise the CEO/director  to take right decisions that bring organisation closer to its mission.

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 31 in reply to 30

27 March 2017, 10:26 AM

Hi Maria

Your comment suggests that negotiating the staff/trustee boundary is a complex thing.  This raises an interesting question as to whether we tend to value different kinds of leadership in these two groups.  Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Carol

Marta Bruschi Post 32 in reply to 31

30 March 2017, 2:30 PM

It is a very complex issue if it comes about the role of the trustees/ board. I met some leaders and those who had a very strong board they always admitted that their work as leaders is much easier. They always underlined that the key to their success is to gather a diverse board members with transversal skills , so they are able to advise the leader. Indeed the boundaries are difficult to draw but I would like my  trustees to be have a bigger advisory role.

Hayley Bennett Post 35 in reply to 32

30 March 2017, 5:03 PM

I wonder - do you think that there is an assumption that trustees also need to have the "extreme sense of vocation" or is that only relevant for the CEO? 

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 36 in reply to 35

31 March 2017, 5:51 PM

Ah that's a very interesting question.  Does anyone have any thoughts?  I'm wondering too if there's any research on this, so I will post a link if I find anything.

Carol

Clare Reeve Post 85 in reply to 36

22 September 2019, 6:58 PM

I don't believe trustees need an extreme sense of vocation, but certainly belief in what the charity is trying to achieve and alignment with it's values.

I think Trustees should be diverse in their skill set and backgrounds and should be there to challenge, guide and advise the management team, not tell them what to do or get too operationally involved.  I have heard the role of Trustee described as being a critical friend - that fits for me

Kirsty Conger Post 40 in reply to 35

3 April 2017, 12:01 PM

This is a really interesting point to consider. My original assumption was to see trustees as more of a supporting role to the CEO. However I feel this is pretty limiting and if trustees are more dynamic and passionate about a particular area of the charities development and given the opportunity to explore this in more of a leadership role then this could lead for a much more dynamic creative charity than one that is solely moved forwards by an individual leader. Although it would be the CEO's role to ensure this separation isn't damaging and keep an eye on the overall big picture, keeping communication channels open between everyone etc. 

Kate Honeyford Post 45 in reply to 31

3 May 2017, 1:52 PM

Trustees, specially the chair, have to work across a range of leadership actions and behaviours - they need to avoid managing day to day - but they may have a formal role in helping resolve differences and grievances aimed at the CEO and they may have a 'ceremonial' leadership role in talking to the press, opening speeches, talking to politicians and important visitors and donors.  they may have to take the helm if the CEO is ill or leaves suddenly or is sacked. 

CEOs need to advise the board on how to achieve the aims of the organisation - they have to remain aware that the trustees have the ultimate say and advise with authority but avoid lulling the trustees into rubber stamping their suggestions. Much fraud, mission drift, over committing the organisation and other risks come from trustee boards who are not taking their oversight duties seriously. 

Rhiannon Hardiman Post 72 in reply to 45

23 April 2019, 11:25 AM

I have found that it's important to have a diverse range of trustees that can advise and support senior management teams across the operational functions of running the organisation as much as the strategic. While it is useful to have trustees with specific sectoral/subject knowledge - particularly for those public engagements- you also need trustees with good financial acumen, knowledge of HR and equalities, safeguarding and others with good knowledge of governance matters, for example, to ensure that the organisation is compliant and delivering policies in line with best practice. Not all trustees need to be in public facing roles to be effective leaders but the Board must be equipped to lead itself collaboratively as well as leading the organisation in collaboration with staff.  

The CEO must have faith in the advice it receives from the Board just as much as the Board needs to have faith in the CEO. This trust relationship is key to delivering transparent leadership, the ability to work alongside each other to present a united position and to feel able to constructively challenge one another n a professional manner will help to strengthen the organisation in my view.  It is irrelevant whether trustees/CEO personally like/dislike one another, in some ways it is better to have a healthy awareness of potential challenges and avoid any kind of drift going unnoticed. 


Darren Smith Post 61 in reply to 10

18 January 2018, 11:30 AM

Hi Genevieve- I just wanted to add a point about the Christine Pearce approach. It struck me as morally right and proper to have inclusivity from the entire demographic invested in a charity. Too many searching questions go unanswered or are not escalated for wider debate.

 

How can directional progress be made if the same limitations of inflexible leadership or identical mind-set are always helming the ship?

 

Patrons deserve to be considered more than just receivers of charitable and voluntary services. They make valued contributions via insightful discourse and responsive networking. Their diversity shouldn’t be diminished once in the comforting embrace of a volunteer sector family.

 

The construct traits of valued leadership are seemingly always unique and always embodied by devotion.   

Kate Martin Post 11 in reply to 1

20 November 2016, 10:31 AM Edited by the author on 20 November 2016, 10:38 AM
I think that valued leaders are those who assess what is required for the job they are employed to do and adapt their personal style and approach to suit it - decisive when decisions are required, consultative when consultation is required, tough/lenient/vocal/reserved/intellectual/intuitive as needed.  They look like everyone else - and I've been sufficiently broad that this can only be a good thing!  


Having worked in financial services before moving into the voluntary sector, I've noticed very different leadership styles displayed at all levels - with high performance and efficiency valued in professional services while inspirational values and interpersonal qualities valued more in the third sector.  However at their core, what those in either sector want from a leader is the above - ultimately someone who is effective in their role.

Nick Kavanagh Post 19 in reply to 11

20 January 2017, 3:11 PM

I agree with this, also the leader needs to be in touch with those around her / him and listening to them. One way of doing this is ensuring that there is an effective leadership team.

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 20 in reply to 19

26 January 2017, 9:00 AM

Hi Nick

This raises an interesting point about how we value a shared approach to leadership as opposed to the charismatic individual leader.  Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Carol

Marta Bruschi Post 29 in reply to 19

25 March 2017, 11:52 AM

I totally agree with this. Being effective is very important, but having led on a small scale: a group of project, I noticed that the best way to achieve effectiveness is to empower people in your team, not "forcing" them to do things but making them powerfull to achieve the goals.

Lorraine Slee Post 26 in reply to 11

18 March 2017, 3:00 PM Edited by the author on 18 March 2017, 3:11 PM

I agree with you Kate. i don't think there is something fundamentally different about 'leaders' from the rest, but the job does call for some different attributes/skills, or skills we all have but to a higher standard.

I also think we get some clues about the distinctives of the voluntary sector by comparing it with business or governmental agencies. I think the difference between the job of a leader in the voluntary sector and that of a leader in the private sector is more significant than whether 'leaders' in general are valued for 'mascuine' or 'feminine' traits. 


Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 27 in reply to 26

20 March 2017, 8:50 AM

Hi Lorraine

Do you have any further thoughts on what those distinctions between leadership expectations in the different sectors are? 

Carol

Kirsty Conger Post 39 in reply to 11

3 April 2017, 11:50 AM

This is really interesting. Does the voluntary sector then struggle to quantify a 'good leader' more than other sectors as these essential qualities are difficult to measure?

Patricia Cowdrey Post 53 in reply to 11

29 August 2017, 1:24 PM

I definitely agree Kate. As organisations need to evolve in an ever changing social and economic environment, so do their leaders. A valued leader needs to be able to bring colleagues and service users along with them through the changing environment. I have worked for many years in the voluntary sector and have found many leaders to be reluctant to change and many organisations trapped in founders syndrome. 

However, a valued leader appears to be one who does not rock the boat or who does not intend to make too many changes, one who does not challenge the Board. Personality and the ability to engage stakeholders has a high priority in some organisations, particularly in the drive to retain funding streams.

Stacey Pottinger Post 15 in reply to 1

15 December 2016, 2:29 PM

The words and thoughts that come to mind from my personal experience of leaders is that within the voluntary sector there are some different traits considered as being essential, opposed to those considered valuable in the private sector. There are also some very similar traits. The things that came to mind for me are 'strength, compassion, opinionated, forceful, persuasive, passionate'. They are also invariable opinionated and a good public speaker.  Compassion is certainly not something I think people consider of importance in the private sector.

In addition I notice that working in the charitable sector the majority of senior people and leaders I meet are women, whereas in the private sector the majority of senior figures and business leaders I worked for or came across were men. Whilst I am aware being female is perhaps not something you can consider a characteristic, I wonder of there is such a thing as female leadership characteristics and whether they are considered more acceptable or desirable in the voluntary sector?

Thanks, Stacey

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 16 in reply to 15

22 December 2016, 3:49 PM

Hi Stacey

That's an interesting comment on the differences between traits valued in different sectors.  Does anyone out there have a different view?

Carol

Ruth Leonard Post 18 in reply to 16

30 December 2016, 4:32 PM

it does seem as if there is more and more emphasis on leaders in every sector be more empathetic and compassionate; lots of literature aimed at leaders on being 'transformational' and (my personal favourite) 'tempered radicals', I note also that millennials are apparently looking to work in a meaningful way and be cause-driven - this doesn't translate to people choosing the voluntary sector as their professional home but rather an expectation tat whichever industry or sector they choose offering those 'softer' traits 

Lorraine Slee Post 25 in reply to 1

5 March 2017, 2:34 PM

Skills in inspiring or at least persuading others to co-operate, support, endorse, donate are in high demand. For that the leader needs to be an excellent communicator of the cause, but also have a through grasp of realistic and innovative ways to advance the cause. So being a ‘True Believer’ is not enough, the leader also has to have a Plan. Persuading others means not only communicating the Cause and the Plan, but making others feel good about themselves being part of this Plan.

It is quite similar to the skills of a political or religious leader in that beliefs and values are prominent, although the potential supporters are not expected to ‘convert’, join the party etc. Just donate, or offer other intangible ‘goods’ to enable the charity to continue its manifestly good work.

However even the best persuader/fundraiser won’t get far unless they ensure the funds are well spent and the donors retained, although the skills needed to accomplish this are more readily delegated to a management team. So the leader also has to successfully work with a management team who will want to exercise some control over their charismatic figure. That takes negotiation skills, knowing how far you can push it.

For good or ill? I think it has to be a mixture. Virtually all charities need to raise money (excluding those that exist to dispense funds from a foundation), and it is the unique feature of charities that raising the income is an exercise in persuasion. That makes charity leaders different from entrepreneurs and different from government-funded agencies. The persuasive skillset employed will depend on the target audience – raising funds from oil companies is different from parents of primary school children. So I guess it is necessary, but has a troublesome side in that we, the public, agree to palm off our social problems and frustrations onto someone else, often without asking too many questions. We are moved by the sentimental advert, or can’t think of a suitable reply to the kid on the doorstep, and it’s easier to just donate to make them go away.


Kirsty Conger Post 37 in reply to 1

3 April 2017, 10:48 AM

I think strong willed individuals with strong beliefs and a focus/passion to champion their cause are particularity valued. These individuals need to be charismatic and inspiring to be able to persuade others to join their cause or support their work financially. 

While these can all be a positive characteristics because it can give and sustain the drive of an organisation I can understand that these can also be problematic. For example the focus and passion for your cause can lead you to have tunnel vision and perhaps lose out on the potential to collaborate with others or to evolve your cause. An individual also needs to be able to be challenged by others and sometimes take a back seat otherwise the drive of the organisation is entirely reliant on their presence and so the organisations development is restricted as they only have so many hours in the day!

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 38 in reply to 37

3 April 2017, 11:34 AM

Hi Kirsty

Interesting insight - that the characteristics that may seem admirable in one context may not seem so admirable in a different context.  As you suggest this raises the question as to how an organization ensures that individuals are appropriately challenged, and how others in the organization enact leadership at such key points.

Carol

Nia Crouch Post 48 in reply to 37

26 May 2017, 3:11 PM

Interestingly a lot of these words I would use to describe someone I think of as entrepreneurial, for example 'strong willed' with a 'focus/passion to champion their cause' also those that are 'charismatic and inspiring'. 

I wonder if it is very similar to lead change in a charitable organisation and sell a product as an entrepreneur?

Kate Honeyford Post 46 in reply to 1

3 May 2017, 4:15 PM

'traditional' leadership traits

I am a feminist and I probably was one from early age if not birth. So it never occurred to me to think that masculinity was a required trait for a leader. This is partly because I have always had a good grasp of what is needed and what we like to do - so I was from an early convinced that while the leader of a lollipop factory or a head teacher might get a lot of attention but that actually people would still be alive if there were no schools or lollipop factories and that the people doing the stuff that actually kept us alive were, by and large, women and that it mant doing stuff that is leadership . 

Nia Crouch Post 49 in reply to 1

26 May 2017, 3:18 PM

I think that the crux of a good leaders is someone who can get others to agree with the change they wish to make. 

I have seen leaders do this by being charismatic and using their wealth/ intellect to charm people and I have seen leaders do this by simply working hard and winning over each and every person individually with facts and case studies.  

I think if you are trying to lead an organisation in a positive direction you will do so in a way that suits your character, trying to fit a 'leader' persona won't be as successful as using your passion and resources in a way that you are confident in. 

Kate Honeyford Post 51 in reply to 49

9 June 2017, 1:32 PM

definitely agree with that Nia,  no good trying to be something you are not. Popel very quickly see through phoney people. 

Vicky Shepherd Post 52 in reply to 1

24 August 2017, 3:02 PM

My experience of some leaders in the voluntary sector is that they behaved in an aggressive and controversial way, and seemed to feel that this was leadership.  My view on a good leader is that they should be able to make decisions and be directive when required and take responsibility for that, and can be collaborative, involve others in decision making when its appropriate (most of the time).  the important skill is when to use what approach to reach the end goal for the organisation and its beneficiaries.  belief, passion and commitment underpin all of these but are not unique to 'leaders'

James Keyworth Post 54 in reply to 1

19 October 2017, 9:39 PM

I tend to subscribe to the viewpoint that there is no 'one-size-fits-all' leadership style or approach, and that different styles are suited to different organisations or situations. I think there have been plenty of good points made about the pitfalls of an over-reliance on one dominant figurehead, whilst also highlighting the benefits.

Genevieve Rudd's points about Camila Batmanghelidjh living modestly are an interesting point for discussion. It seems only natural to feel empathy with someone who is driven by a 'purpose' or 'calling', but isn't that why many of us get into the voluntary sector?

Emma Corcoran Post 57 in reply to 1

26 October 2017, 4:35 PM

For me, I think I would be receptive to a leader in the voluntary sector that has had first-hand experience of working with service users. Team members are often dealing with issues that can cause practical difficulties and sometimes emotional distress. Working in this environment can be a very different experience to other sectors, and therefore it is important that the leader has some practical experience of dealing with these issues so that they can fully empathise with the needs of both the team and the service users.


Anthony Colson Post 59 in reply to 57

15 January 2018, 8:13 PM

Hi Emma

I understand the basis for your point and it's a classic management debate, do you have to have done the job of those you manage/lead in order to manage them or can you be an individual with good leadership traits regardless.

Whilst I agree there is a basis for having some knowledge / appreciation for the charitable work you are doing I don't think you do have to have done the job. If you did then every healthcare charity needs to have a doctor or nurse as CEO, every animal charity a vet and so on.

Leading in terms of from the the top is a varied role and a singular perspective of any kind can be difficult to work with.  In my experience I have seen good leaders that are from outside of the specific area of charity work, not just from across sectors but also from different types of charities.  I have also seen individuals in leadership for exactly the reasons you mention and they have struggled to deal with the topics they have not perhaps had any experience of?

In a direct service delivery role though there is more of an argument for this in relation to leading an overall service but as roles develop I think this becomes slightly less important.

Anthony Colson Post 58 in reply to 1

15 January 2018, 8:03 PM

I found this aspect quite challenging to think of in-terms of a stand-out leader who is valued over others.

There are many leaders in the voluntary sector, who will display good leadership traits, awareness, motivation, determination etc. but for me those don't make them a stand-out leader, in their own right. 

For me the stand out leaders are those individuals who perserve, have great compassion and can inspire others.  These individuals and are just as likely to be working in service delivery as those who perhaps 'lead' and organisation from the top.  Although there role in leadership may not be as formal it is perhaps in my view at least as valuable.

Madeleine Musgrove Post 71 in reply to 58

13 October 2018, 9:16 AM

I agree that the leaders with these traits are not necessarily those who are leading the organisation at a senior level, but by having strong leadership dispersed across all levels and areas of an organisation you have a greater ability to drive an organisation forward. 

Darren Smith Post 60 in reply to 1

17 January 2018, 8:51 PM

Valued Leadership in the Voluntary Sector

 

I have been considering some traits evident in leaders of voluntary organisations.

 

The common characteristics seem to be someone who feels an overwhelming sense of emotional awareness and cares enough. This emotional awareness may be realised at any point of someone’s life and may be induced by being directly or indirectly affected by a social issue. That is to say, directly affected by personal involvement, or, indirectly affected by accidental discovery or investigation. And simply asking, why?

 

By whatever means, leadership then seems to surface through the reactionary force of the will to bring about change. That conscious awareness then requires vast amounts of dialogue, pragmatism, and endeavour. And to bring this to life, the construct of leadership will require drawing on an individual’s reserves of intellect, passion, integrity… So will be uniquely nuanced for each leader.

 

It would seem that the most valued leaders are those who are ever present in the public psyche. They are relentless in the cause. They take every opportunity to highlight the problems and court engagement to make changes and improve lives. They learn to become savvy media operators, and possibly, have to learn to deal with an evolutionary rush from the ensuing groundswell of support. I think these battle cries, are not only good but necessary. However, infectious leadership will only be valued by other like-minded humanitarians. This is because they recognise the selfless quality that is an amalgam of caring enough combined with the will to rigorously examine the question of why. For anyone less sensitive, it is still hard to ignore the persistence of an impassioned leader.

 

Victoria Richardson Post 62 in reply to 1

23 February 2018, 2:15 PM

I found this interesting to answer in the light of the current Oxfam/Save the Children scandals.

For me these have shown that the ability to make difficult and possibly unpopular decisions is necessary. But also the need to be able to handle media in all it's forms as this can very quickly make or break a career.

Jill Anderson Post 101 in reply to 62

15 December 2019, 9:45 AM

I so agree, that media skills are important.  I am writing this a couple of days after the election, and am thinking about how particular leadership traits can be viewed, and misrepresented, by the mainstream media.  We are still, as a soceity, at the beginning of understanding how to use social media effectively too, and voluntary sector leaders need to have a good understanding, not only of its value, but of its limitations and the ways in which it can serve to close down dialogue and silence people's voices.

Jessica Meale Post 64 in reply to 1

13 April 2018, 9:56 AM Edited by the author on 13 April 2018, 10:04 AM

I can clearly recognise the leaders and managers in my organisation.  Personally for me, I still feel I'm sat somewhere in the middle!  As we saw in the earlier video on this module, for some people it can be hard to hold back when you are passionate about a cause or project and you just want to steam ahead and get the ball rolling, which is when the 'manager' traits come out.  However, having made this mistake in the past, I have realised the importance of leading on a project and ensuring you hear others ideas and get their buy-in.  I know that I am a 'doer' so I certainly still need to work on slowing down and considering all ideas and potential outcomes!

I do think that maybe leadership and management has been defined as a male role in the past, purely because of the role women used to play in the family.  I am shocked to see that definition still being used in more recent years though in some of the studies.  I think the role of women in the working world has come on in leaps and bounds over the last decade or so and more women that ever are taking on these roles.  I think we will continue to see this grow over the next decade. 

I'm also not convinced by the reference to all leaders being 'natural leaders' ie. being born with the right traits.  Yes, I agree that some will be born with more of the traits than others but I also believe that a person can learn those traits through their upbringing and attitude to life and work.  


Madeleine Musgrove Post 70 in reply to 64

13 October 2018, 9:13 AM

I agree Jessica I also struggle to hold back when I'm really passionate about a project, and have similarly learnt from experience that in order to lead a project I need to slow down first and consider the best way to get the ball rolling. 

I'm also interested to see how the definition of leadership changes as more women are taking leadership roles, I think the definition will diversify and we will see a broader range of leadership styles. 

Maishara Kayemba Post 65 in reply to 1

25 April 2018, 6:10 AM

My new leader

Iam new to the voluntary sector leadership and must say this course is enlightening as it brings all thoughts and minds to leadership especially to the voluntary sector.

Iam starting to work with a leader who  is very passionate, caring, involved, very influential, ears wide open to listen, encourages participation, looks out for  like minded people, draws the bigger picture and yet very firm, persistent, and will not take no for an answer if he believes in something.

Having a vision and bringing that vision to work means that the leader is over whelmed with so much however this sometimes can be or might go wrong if work load is not distributed amongst peers. 


The question I would ask all leaders out there?? How would you see the voluntary organisation grow  in the event of your absences?

Depending on the answer, different leaders will focus on different attributes on bringing out their vision since voluntary is much broad than we perharps see it

Fidele Mutwarasibo Post 66 in reply to 65

8 May 2018, 4:43 PM

Thanks for engagement on the Durum Maishara.Like your emphasis on succession planning.

Sarah Pettifor Post 67 in reply to 65

18 June 2018, 10:48 AM

I am from a similar position where being in the voluntary sector is quite new to me. 

I have to say my experience of leadership has been quite the opposite of many of the descriptions within this discussion. The leadership I have experienced has been very calm, mild, present and strategic. It's very 'with the people' but underpinned by a more operational approach that is very carefully shared to the organisation. 

I have some knowledge of a different type of leadership within the voluntary sector and this is a lot more dynamic, forward-focussed, present and engaged. The organisation is definitely allowed to work rhizomatically, with the interjection of clear, decisive leadership actions to keep the organisation moving. 

I would say that the style of leadership definitely affects the whole culture of the organisation. Though I would be wary of such an effervescent and emotive leadership style as Camila Batmanghelidjh, the traits of a leader set the tone of the organisation and that can be a significant aspect of the success (or failure) of a voluntary organisation. 

Marilyn David Post 92 in reply to 67

5 October 2019, 11:08 PM

I agree that the traits of the leader set the tone of the organisation, therefore the leader must have the ability to work collaboratively with the individuals/teams that they work with and fully understand their teams. However it is important that the leader has to be focused, driven and decisive in order to implement change. Leaders have to be risk takers in todays competitive world, if they are not prepared to take risks the organisation could suffer and may be left behind in terms of practice/service.   

Jill Anderson Post 102 in reply to 92

15 December 2019, 9:53 AM

Both your postings - Sarah and Marilyn - resonated with me.  I am wondering about the importance of language and whether a leader that one person might describe as 'calm', 'mild', 'present' and 'strategic' might be described by another person as 'focused', 'driven' and 'decisive'.  That is, I am wondering whether we need to be alert not only to the existence of two two types of leader but also to the existence of multiple  ways of talking about leadership. . . 

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 103 in reply to 102

6 January 2020, 8:02 AM

Hi Jill

You make two great points here.  First, that use of language can lead to very different conclusions.  Second, that different individuals can interpret behaviour very differently.  Both of these pose challenges for leadership practice.

Carol

Madeleine Musgrove Post 69 in reply to 1

13 October 2018, 9:09 AM

There are a number of traits I've noticed are valued in the voluntary sector over others, including experience of working within and understanding of the specific cause the charity is aiming to change, and passion for this cause. Honesty, creativity, ability to work hard, communicate clearly, persuade diplomatically and treat everyone as equals are also highly valued. There isn't a set way for how these valued leaders look!

Many of these traits are helpful particularly when engaging with multiple senior stakeholders, inspiring the staff of an organisation and sustaining the drive of an organisation. However, sometimes being passionate about the cause can mean that you lead as an individual rather than through collaborative leadership, which limits how far you can drive your cause forwards. Additionally, sometime conflict rather than diplomacy is needed to reach a decision and avoiding this conflict can mean you are not driving the organisations forwards.  


Rhiannon Hardiman Post 73 in reply to 69

23 April 2019, 11:58 AM

I agree with many of the traits already discussed in this forum and won't repeat those but will make an observation on one specific trait. A trait that I have noticed seems to be particularly valued in the voluntary sector currently is 'strength' and interestingly this is often mentioned in the context of the lack of strong leaders in the voluntary sector. 

There are many reasons why this might be. Sometimes charity leaders are disempowered, one example is the conflict between receiving funds and challenging/criticising those that fund you. The level of challenge coming from values-led leaders to effect societal change is increasingly difficult because of the dependence charities have on public sector funding.Many charities are now dependent on grant funding and fear losing this lifeline so they don't shout as loudly. This is where public sector leaders must be pragmatic and welcome this challenge to keep them on their toes without penalising the voluntary sector for simply doing their job.

Another different area that this leaning towards 'strength' is at play is where voluntary sector leaders have challenged the status quo in how things are done and led changes not only for their organisation but which have the potential to impact the sector as a whole. (e.g. leaders that have found ways of empowering more women into leadership/Board roles, transforming safeguarding and wellbeing practices). 

Perhaps the third sector is full of strong leaders but simply isn't as good at singing its own praises and putting effective leaders on a pedestal (as its public/private sector counterparts do) as this isn't what naturally drives the third sector. 


Jacqueline McNee Post 74 in reply to 73

14 May 2019, 3:46 PM

I think that is a really valid poit you have raised there Rhiannon and I think many third sector organsiations are risk averse because they are worried about losing funding (either through supporter donations or public sector funding). A good leader needs to be able to take risks sometimes and to be able to challenge the status quo, but I do feel this is increasingly difficult.  

Jeremy Gee Post 75 in reply to 74

2 June 2019, 1:02 PM

Agree here Jacq - often our reluctance to take risks holds us back. I think an underrated trait is passion - when people are more passionate about the cause I'd suggest they'd be more inclined to take risks and consider bolder causes of action (and acting more quickly) than someone who views an organisation more pragmatically. Although obviously this passion has to be tempered with a level of self-knowledge and responsibility, otherwise you run a much higher risk of ending up in another Kids Co situation.  

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 76 in reply to 75

3 June 2019, 1:31 PM

Hi Jeremy

This is really interesting.  It also poses the question as to how leadership can enable, re-ignite, and direct that passion in others. 

Carol

Nicola Brooks Post 77 in reply to 76

9 July 2019, 4:43 PM

I can see both sides to this - passion can drive leaders to take risks in the pursuit of making a difference in an issue, but also hold them back from the risks, in an effort to conserve the good they are already doing - I'd say passion and risk taking are separate traits.  

However, I'd agree that passion is highly valued in this sector, right from application/interview to veterans in an organisation.  lacking this can inhibit leadership, but having it isn't enough.  

Collaboration is also valued - I think that the demonstration of this can be misleading, as the relationships and partnership building, the 'who do you know' or connections you can make/call on are how this is seen and valued, but the key ability is actually the quieter side of this, being able to see strengths in others and support real collaboration.  this is also more valuable as it avoids the single leader without whom everything falls apart - I'm constantly trying to work towards sustainability in a 'what if I/you/they were hit by a bus' way of thinking, but not always easy.    

Hayley O'Gara Post 78 in reply to 75

17 July 2019, 2:20 PM

Isn't passion an emotion and there for unreliable? 

Most risk taking within an organisation, especially when dealing with charitable funds should be measured. For example, along side an organisation change policy or risk management. 

Megan Parnell-Murphy Post 95 in reply to 78

8 October 2019, 6:37 AM

I agree leaders should be careful with how their passion is driving their decision making and ensure they are checking in with themselves and others to ensure that their level of passion is not driving unrealistic goals and causing them to take too much risk, but I do feel that being passionate is an important part of leadership as it is inspirational to others, driving them to commit to the organisation and it's mission.

Fidele Mutwarasibo Post 97 in reply to 95

8 October 2019, 12:40 PM

Agree on the importance of realism and keeping an eye on our passion as leaders in the voluntary Sector.

Rose Thompson Post 79 in reply to 1

19 August 2019, 6:09 PM

From my perspective working in the mental health part of the voluntary sector (and often in collaboration with statutory services) I have noticed a bit of a gap between the leadership people say the want, or that they want to provide, and leadership in practice. There is a strong focus on collaborative or co-productive processes in working around mental health that involve people 'at the top' working in partnership with people with mental health problems. Practically this is quite hard to do and can take a lot of time. Some people are really good at it and truly inspiring in their ability to include and listen to everyone's point of view. However, I have seen projects which are described as collaborations, but where I know that actually those collaborative processes have been circumvented or at least truncated for the purpose of speeding things along, and decisions that could be made collectively are actually taken by someone in a leadership position. They then seek 'endorsement' for these decisions, which is not really in the spirit of a true collaboration. From the outside this probably looks good but being on the inside of one of these efforts is disheartening and can lead to disillusionment. 

I have also noticed that there are quite a lot of people who may fit into the 'Founder' role, who are often very passionate people who move and think fast, and who have a lot of expertise. I find these individuals can be inspiring, but are also sometimes difficult to keep up with and so can actually end up intimidating some new entrants to the sector who may have a lot to offer.

I would be interested in know how far these issues extend across other parts of the voluntary sector.

Carol Jacklin-Jarvis Post 80 in reply to 79

20 August 2019, 10:25 AM

Hi Rose, I'm interested in your comment that there may be a gap in how people talk about leadership (collaborative, shared etc) and in how leadership is practiced.  My experience and research in other policy fields suggests that your experience is not unique.  I wonder if you or others have further insight into why this gap develops.  Is it entirely down to personal skills or is there something in the structure and processes of many policy-related collaborations that makes it difficult to achieve collaborative ways of leading?

Carol

Clare Reeve Post 81 in reply to 1

22 September 2019, 6:32 PM

Voluntary sector leaders often have a absolute connection with the charity they lead, and may have set it up from scratch.

This is positive as they are focused, dedicated to the cause, and relentless in their pursuit of making a difference to their end user.  They will inspire others with their passion, influence others to support the cause and demonstrate passion and commitment beyond the norm.

However, there are negatives;  they may be so obsessed with delivering the end product, they take their eye of the ball of internal workings, balancing the books and the external influences that impact the success of the charity.  Sometime decisions may be made by the heart, not the head, and therefore are not always the best ones.

They may show disappointment if others don't pace the same level of importance on their charity as they do.

My experience has been that initially team members like to see that their leader has a personal connection to their particular charity, that they really believe in it and have passion, the highest levels of commitment and that they almost live an breath it.  However, I think that is not always what an organisation needs; all decisions can be deferred to the top as others don't feel empowered to take decisions about something the leader feels so stringly connected to.


Fidele Mutwarasibo Post 86 in reply to 81

22 September 2019, 8:47 PM

Clare, your comments reminded me the discussions I had with my colleagues in Dublin in 2004 when I resigned from my directorship of Africa Centre (Ireland). Many had assumed that as a founding member is was going to stay on the board for more than the 3-4 years I had served. 

My decision was based on the prioritisation of other commitments and the belief in the importance of succession planning. We were moving from a volunteer run to professional run organisation. At the time I felt that other leaders could take the baton on. After all, in addition to leadership,  an organisation needs a strong foundation  I.e. structures. 

Megan Parnell-Murphy Post 96 in reply to 81

8 October 2019, 6:43 AM

I agree with your comments Clare and think that leaders like this need to be able to check in on themselves and their behaviour and be appropriately self critical to stop their passion and drive from becoming a hindrance to the organisation and those within it.

Julie Cooper Post 87 in reply to 1

29 September 2019, 6:32 PM

I don’t believe there is a particular kind of leader for the voluntary sector, I do however, believe that the old hierarchical style of leadership no longer has a place in today’s voluntary organisations.  Today’s voluntary leaders characteristics may differ depending on the organisation but  the essential behavioural framework is about growing the organisations influence and reputation, good judgement, building talent, collaboration, fostering inclusion and encouraging diverse thinking. 


If the leader is overly charismatic and persuasive as in the case of  Camila Batmanghelidjh then there is a risk that no one else in the organisation feels able to stand up and have a view. The traits of a leader set the tone of the organisation and that can be a significant aspect of the success (or failure) of a voluntary organisation.


Fidele Mutwarasibo Post 90 in reply to 87

1 October 2019, 11:43 AM

Concur with your analysis of good leadership Julie.

Marilyn David Post 91 in reply to 1

5 October 2019, 11:00 PM

In my experience, there are leaders who are charismatic in nature and have a strong passion for the charity they are representing however those types of leaders are not necessarily challenging and avoid conflict. Within the voluntary sector, a leader must be able to deal with conflict because the everchanging voluntary sector needs leaders who can passionate but also strong willed in order to copy with the competitive charity environment. 


Megan Parnell-Murphy Post 94 in reply to 1

8 October 2019, 6:31 AM

I think that there is not one set list of characteristics to define a leader who would be most valued by all people, as everyone has different thoughts about leadership, as we have seen in the forum discussing the definitions of leadership - not one is the same. Everyone has different priorities when it comes to what they feel they require in their leader.

A leader who holds values in line with that of the organisation will be able to lead an organisation in a direction that stays true to its core values and mission. A leader who is inspiring and collaborative will be able to motivate and bring people together. A leader who can recognise weaknesses in the organisation and themselves will promote growth and change, but using this to be overly ambitious and overly innovative could be disruptive and create a high level of risk. A leader who is confident and ready to face adversity and criticism head on is good as voluntary sector leaders can come under scrutiny, but this is good only at a level where others still feel able to appropriately challenge and criticise for the good of the organisation without fear.

Jill Anderson Post 100 in reply to 1

15 December 2019, 9:34 AM

It's hard to generalise about the kinds of leaders who are valued, as there is so much diversity within the sector. Unsuprisingly, I guess, there is often a correlation between the mission and values of the organisation and the ways in which leadership is understood. The question also begs another question: valued by whom? (trustees? staff? volunteers? other stakeholders?). 

Overall, I would say, the kind of leadership that is valued within large voluntary organisations looks more similar to the kind of leader that is valued in large organisations of other kinds (and I think of that as associated with traits that are often seen to be masculine: assertiveness, drive, entrepreneuralism, decisiveness, energy).When I picture a CEO of a large charity I think of a man or woman in a suit, holding out a business card. I picture the kind of person who would blend in at a conference of NHS executives. They would behave in ways that might generally be understood to be 'professional'.  

Within smaller, more grassroots organisations it seems to me that other kinds of qualities are often valued: authenticity, networking skills, kindness, the ability to get alongside people, mentoring skills etc. When I picture a leader within that kind of organisation I picture someone who would blend in at a community group fundraiser and seem - to the people there - approachable at first glance. 

The first type of leader might do a good job of getting businesses or public sector organisations onside and of ensuring that finances are managed effectively.  They may well be better paid and thus have better defences against burnout.  The second type of leader may be good at involving everyone, listening to and harnessing their ideas.  But that may be at the expense of 'efficiency', in terms of getting things done fast.  They may be at risk of overwhelm too.  If they are the only wage earner in their family, it is quite possible that they will be having to do another job in the evening to make ends meet.

 As I write this, I am aware that it is full of stereotypes and a vast oversimplification.  That is, it is equally possible that the first type of leader will have excellent skills in working participatively in complex organisations (perhaps they will have been supported to develop those through training and, of course, they may - though may not! -  have started out as the second 'type' of leader). The second type of leader may well be so identified with the mission of the organisation that they are unable to hear other perspectives, and too tired to know what to do with them!

Sandy Campbell Post 106 in reply to 100

20 January 2020, 12:57 AM

I like the idea of the type of qualities you present here on  a leadership in terms of the size of the organisation. I think in terms of how you see them fitting in a certain situation is interesting, as it is perception. I remember once having a discussion about is it appropriate for a youth worker to be wearing jeans and a t-shirt in a school or should they be in a suit. It brought up a discussion of  the image they present to both colleagues and those they are trying to engage with and which is more important to dress for their professionals or for the youths with whom they are there to work with. It shows that a leader is the same, they should be able to be adaptable to the situations they find themselves within without compromising their organisation and professional standards. But also be willing to listen and engage in all situations. 

Sandy Campbell Post 105 in reply to 1

20 January 2020, 12:50 AM

I have seen leaders picked because of their experience and popularity to the public. I have seen people picked as ambassadors because it may raise the profile of the charity or organisation for example celebrities becoming a spokesperson for a cause, but does that make them a leader and an effective one? I think there needs to be a balance within leadership within the voluntary and charitable sector. I think a good leader should be passionate about the cause, before their own ego or sense of ego. A good leader should not be afraid of challenges and changes and be confident in expressing themselves for the good of the vision. Flexibility is also a good trait within a leader. Picking a good leader can become a good reward as they may be able to influence others to join in action towards the vision because of popularity but they may also not be able to commit to projects because of other commitments so i think the voluntary sector must be careful when choosing people as leaders or representatives/patrons as a tool for progression. I think it is also important for the leader to have a good understanding of the sector and vision of the organisation.