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Post 1

18 May 2020, 14:12 Edited by the author on 18 May 2020, 19:54

Section 5, Activity 2

TickThis thread is for section 5, activity 2

The activity invites you to consider how OU Tutors mark assignments. In particular, what are the main issues you foresee in marking at a distance?

These are examples of the type of posts we might expect to see:

"It could be difficult to make sure that students understand the feedback"

"Scope for misunderstandings can lead to students becoming upset?"

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David Sherlock Post 2 (summarised) in reply to 1

9 Jun 2020, 10:29 Edited by the author on 9 Jun 2020, 10:30
From my own f2f experiences, the days after feedback is released is often...
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Kate Sim Post 3 (summarised) in reply to 2

9 Jun 2020, 12:46
keeping channels of communication open is essential Yes, this is important...
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Jacqueline Jones Post 4 (summarised) in reply to 2

9 Jun 2020, 16:53
I have noticed that when I hand back work in class the first thing students...
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Jenny Bakkali Post 6 (summarised) in reply to 4

13 Jun 2020, 18:59
Hi Jacqueline,  Yes, feedback is very important, and there is always the...
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Lucy Gillett Post 5 (summarised) in reply to 1

13 Jun 2020, 13:32
For me it would be communication styles and what can get lost in translation....
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Jenny Bakkali Post 7 (summarised) in reply to 5

13 Jun 2020, 19:12
Hi Lucy,  Understanding and interpretation definitely play a part in feedback...
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Marcus Young Post 8 (summarised) in reply to 1

14 Jun 2020, 12:20
As others have said, there is potential with written feedback to be...
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Jenny Bakkali Post 10 (summarised) in reply to 8

15 Jun 2020, 11:26
Hi Marcus,  Students can use forums to enquire and respond to each other, as...
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Tamara Lopez Post 9 (summarised) in reply to 1

14 Jun 2020, 16:06
I agree with the other commenters that the provision of feedback is an area...
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Ben Pike Post 11 (summarised) in reply to 1

15 Jun 2020, 15:18 Edited by the author on 15 Jun 2020, 15:19
There is the possibility that negative feedback on an assignment may not be...
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Adrian Hehir Post 12 (summarised) in reply to 1

16 Jun 2020, 17:42
Students not understanding the tutors comments or suggestions for...
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Emmanuel Isibor Post 14 (summarised) in reply to 12

19 Jun 2020, 08:55
Hi Adrian, I like the idea of asking students to provide a feedback on the...
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Jenny Bakkali Post 15 (summarised) in reply to 12

19 Jun 2020, 19:27
Hi Adrian, It could be useful to get a feel for a student's understanding of...
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Emmanuel Isibor Post 13 (summarised) in reply to 1

19 Jun 2020, 08:53
The major challenge that I see with marking at a distance is providing a...
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Cath Brown Post 16 (summarised) in reply to 1

21 Jun 2020, 09:03 Edited by the author on 21 Jun 2020, 09:16
Issues with marking at a distance :- Encouraging students to read feedback - ...
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Anna Pietrzak Post 17 (summarised) in reply to 1

24 Jun 2020, 13:36
I have to be clear, consistent and make sure that students understand the...
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Colin Jenkins Post 20 (summarised) in reply to 17

27 Jun 2020, 17:44 Edited by the author on 27 Jun 2020, 17:45
That is a very useful tip to discuss the feedback in tutorial, provided the...
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Iain Toolin Post 18 (summarised) in reply to 1

26 Jun 2020, 17:41
The remoteness reduces the non verbal clues that you can glean from a face to...
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Colin Jenkins Post 19 (summarised) in reply to 1

27 Jun 2020, 17:42
I agree that the main issue is that the students interpretation of the...
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Jenny Bakkali Post 21 (summarised) in reply to 19

28 Jun 2020, 10:51
Hi Colin, That's a good point re TMA00 - the dummy assignment submission for...
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Michael Liedl Post 22 (summarised) in reply to 1

5 Jul 2020, 15:12
In my current experience as a tutor I what to understand why he got it wrong,...
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Toni Walton Post 23 (summarised) in reply to 1

9 Jul 2020, 12:00
I think it is important to include positive and feed forward comments in...
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Graham Smith Post 24 (summarised) in reply to 1

14 Jul 2020, 11:50
I can remember receiving results where I got 98% and was disappointed and...
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Petra Wolf Post 30 (summarised) in reply to 24

31 Oct 2020, 22:29
I agree, offering a follow up session is essential. One could use the tutor...
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Jenny Bakkali Post 31 (summarised) in reply to 30

2 Nov 2020, 14:45
In feedback on submitted work, tutors prompt students to reflect on the work...
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Raj Seepersad Post 25 (summarised) in reply to 1

22 Aug 2020, 21:34

Coordination and monitoring of marked assignments

 Marking is quite a...
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Kate Sim Post 26 (summarised) in reply to 25

23 Aug 2020, 13:54
Hi Raj,  When marking for the OU, those notes will probably need to be used...
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Bill Tarpy Post 27 (summarised) in reply to 1

27 Aug 2020, 17:09
Main issues are exactly that - Student misinterprets the feedback Student...
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Silvia Varagnolo Post 33 (summarised) in reply to 27

3 Nov 2020, 21:54
Hi Bill, I agree with these two points. You grasped the essence.
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Quentin McPhee Post 28 (summarised) in reply to 1

13 Sep 2020, 10:10
The challenge with marking and providing feedback on student work at a...
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Petra Wolf Post 29 (summarised) in reply to 1

31 Oct 2020, 22:27
Written feedback needs to be detailed and explain clearly what was done well...
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Silvia Varagnolo Post 34 (summarised) in reply to 29

3 Nov 2020, 21:56
Hi Petra, I agree clarity is essential. Offering a call might be really...
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Silvia Varagnolo Post 32 (summarised) in reply to 1

3 Nov 2020, 21:53
I think one possible issue is the fact that when we read a comment we tend to...
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Dhouha Kbaier Post 35 (summarised) in reply to 1

25 Nov 2020, 14:46
I prefer to release feedback before grades so the students go through the...
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Kevin Frost Post 36 in reply to 1

11 Jan 2021, 21:26

I think it is very easy to just list the negatives, but I think it is important to also say what was done well or shows promise or else students are at risk of becoming demotivated. THey also need to know what they did well so they can keep doing it  as well as what they did wrong so they can change or improve. Tone should also be careullly pitched to give the best chance of it comping over as intended.

I do think it is possible to write feedback in such as way as to have this balance, however there is also still a risk the student doesnt receive it as it was intended. As well as trying for balance I believe tutors shoudl try to keep communications open by variosu means so that things can be discussed over the longer term and follow ups are easy if the student is disappointed or not sure why ther got the mark they did.

There is always the risk also that students don't act on the feedback or don;t even read it at all which is certainly not unknown once a learner sees a score and may feel thats all they want to know.

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Fiona Baxter Post 39 (unread) in reply to 36

23 Jun 2021, 01:43

I agree, there should always be a 'feedback sandwich', supported by a conversation to ensure the student understands. 

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Sian Armstrong-Hollins Post 37 in reply to 1

22 May 2021, 18:46

Marking and feedback at a distance can lead to misunderstandings or an inability to get a particular point across the right way - think about the misunderstandings that can occur in emails or text messages in other areas of life! Thus, care needs to be taken.

Additionally, good feedback can only be given if the groundwork is put in place initially to understand the student, and how they work. If those foundations are not in place then it is difficult to feedback effectively. 

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Fiona Baxter Post 40 (unread) in reply to 37

23 Jun 2021, 01:46

Absolutely, there needs to be a mix of formal written feedback and informal conversation about the feedback. I agree that it's helpful to know the student, to better know where they might be coming from with their work.

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Amanda Williams Post 38 (unread) in reply to 1

13 Jun 2021, 12:58

I often find that students go directly to their mark and where they have lost lost marks.  It is easy to discuss this face to face, but doing remotely has it's own specific problems.  Tutors may not be available when the marks are released and some students might want to discuss them there and then.  Feedback maybe misunderstood and email can often be slow. 

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Fiona Baxter Post 41 (unread) in reply to 38

23 Jun 2021, 01:48

I have definitely found some students to be very eager to have work marked and feedback immediately after submission, and with many students to one tutor this can be challenging.

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Fiona Baxter Post 42 (unread) in reply to 1

23 Jun 2021, 01:55

Sometimes you may find you don't understand a piece of work and it may delay marking until you can discuss meaning with the student. Also, some marking and results might be down to how specific criteria have been met, rather than reflecting the quality of the work overall. It may be disheartening for a student to initially see marks online, without a supporting conversation.  

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Elena Sanchez-Heras Post 43 (unread) in reply to 1

6 Jul 2021, 12:26

Being a new tutor, I would be anxious about the differences in strong and weak students may make my feedback. I sometimes have just ticks in my answers and a summary feedback. But when I have had a bad answer, the tutor corrects it in different colour and explains where I am wrong. Then, I get advice on how to prevent these kind of mistakes.

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Charlotte Jukes Post 44 (unread) in reply to 1

6 Jul 2021, 13:07

I think communication is the key with marking distance learning. As an OU student myself, there have been occasions where I have wanted to ask questions about certain feedback I have been given, which is more difficult when you are not with your tutor in person. However, if channels for communication are kept open and the student is given an opportunity to discuss feedback if required, this would hopefully resolve that issue. 

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John Dunning Post 45 (unread) in reply to 1

9 Jul 2021, 13:15

I'm used to 'classroom' teaching where the students see their marks and can ask questions. Via correspondence, it would be necessary to try to preempt those questions and provide answers proactively.

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Chi Onyekaba Post 46 (unread) in reply to 1

17 Jul 2021, 22:19

For me, one issue could probably be the ease to which the given feedback can be explored further through communication between the student and tutor.

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