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ruth Lindsey-Armstrong Post 1

2 June 2018, 8:16 PM

Facebook social an oer?

Susan Jones Post 2 in reply to 1

2 June 2018, 9:24 PM

I don't see a link here.  


I see one of the biggest issues w/ OER is with things being "out there" but.... how are people going to find it?  I'm considering -- not as any kind of expert, just a wafting thought -- that ... if I want something to be "OER" then I should consider connecting w/ people who can use it outside of a small circle. I'm sure there's a lot more to think about though.

ruth Lindsey-Armstrong Post 4 in reply to 2

3 June 2018, 12:50 AM

facebook page

Hi there,

not sure how to actually provide a link to a Facebook page but it's called ECE resource discussion site. I am the administrator, it's a closed site for the reason of trying to keep some assemblance of integrity (away from trolls and spammers).

It's ECE resource based, so if that's not your thang it might be of no interest,

ruth

Jenni Hayman Post 3 in reply to 1

2 June 2018, 10:30 PM

Hi Ruth, it's a great question, whether and how Facebook might be considered an open resource. If the group is completely publicly open (anyone can join), and those that are contributing ideas understand that it's open, and agree to share, then I think it's a great open space and resource. It does require having a Facebook account to access, and some might consider that a barrier, but for those that like participating on Facebook (and many do), it's a great place to gather around a good topic such as ECE resourcing. The things that people choose to share, even their own experiences and advice can definitely be considered resources, and anyone in the group can download and use those resources, so very open on that front. For me, openness is more about the spirit and intention than the spaces and licensing. If a group of practitioners wants to help, and be helped by others, and are willing to participate, then it's open.

ruth Lindsey-Armstrong Post 5 in reply to 3

3 June 2018, 12:54 AM

facebook and academic integrity

So we all know Facebook isn't a peer-reviewed source. This is an issue with OER for my colleagues - how do we know the source is peer-reviewed. Jenny is there something in Creative Commons that discusses integrity of materials shared as OER?

ruth

Laura Killam Post 6 in reply to 5

3 June 2018, 1:50 AM

Hello, 

This discussion reminds me of the tension I experienced when I used Facebook with students. My colleagues thought it was unprofessional but many students liked it ... See http://www.ijede.ca/index.php/jde/article/view/849 for more if you are interested. 

Laura 

Jenni Hayman Post 7 in reply to 5

3 June 2018, 1:06 PM

Hi Ruth, there are some quality assurance processes in place for some of the larger projects in creation of OER. For example the OpenStax open textbook collection is rigorously copy-edited and peer reviewed, which costs a lot of time and money to accomplish. Someone has to pay for it. And this speaks to the sustainability issue of the creation of OER. Their series of introductory-level textbooks is a great (but expensive) creation example. 

Saylor.org online courseware is also a good example, anything created by BCcampus, University of Minnesota, so many other choices. Many organizations that fund the creation of resource support creators to design and deliver the best possible product. Ultimately the burden of quality rests with the creator and the curator. What I create may not meet your personal or regional standards for an effective resource. If you're considering using a resource for your teaching you will have to review it, as a subject matter expert, to determine if it's the right fit for you and your learners' needs. That's really all there is to it. It would be nice if everyone creating OER would hold themselves to high standards, but whose standards?

A few repositories, such as OER Commons have developed peer rating systems and self-reported adoption rates, this may help as an indicator of effectiveness for individual resources, but it's currently an overwhelming task to review options in a repository for your practice. This is where discipline communities can begin to help each other. Your ECE open community can find and share things that they have reviewed, and that they recommend.

Definitely looking for suggestions around this issue. I push back a bit when asked about the quality issue (it's an extremely common question at conferences and workshops). I would never put a resource in front of my learners that I hadn't reviewed for quality, would you? I make mistakes on this front now and again, for example the video in Module 1 had not been properly captioned and I missed it. Fortunately, a participant helped me learn!

As much as I prepare for a group of learners I've never met (this is the most common learning scenario in education), I cannot perfectly match resources to my learners needs until I get to see them and know them. They may also have great ideas for what will help them learn, and hopefully as an educator I can help them develop their research and curation skills to find the best resources for personal and peer learning. Group effort.


Raul Lopez Avila Post 8 in reply to 3

19 June 2018, 7:24 AM

Subjectivity of openness and openness of communities

Hi everybody, reading your comments I’m thinking about my first and maybe my unique experience in a CoP. I’m actually there, in this CoP we are some students of the first generation of a virtual bachelor called “desarrollo educativo” or development education.

 

I think we are a close CoP, some of the critical reasons of this closeness, is all of us are students or graduates of the same bachelor, and our principal communications channels are WhatsApp and Facebook groups (but the principal is WhatsApp). The last year I made a project trying to open the community to the world using Wordpress, but the project wasn’t appropriately.

 

I´m according to you Jenni when you said, “For me, openness is more about the spirit and intention than the spaces and licensing.”

 

I think that more is an important word in this sentence, because the spaces and licensing are also part of the context of a community and the way it takes. With close spaces, the diversity is not possible, like in the CoP of my example; and I think diversity is a great value in every educational practice.

 

I think that Facebook and WhatsApp are great opportunities to connect whit students, and to make CoP. But like Laura Killam says, some teachers, administrators or other supporters of education; think that the use and communications out of moodle platform, out of the official telephone, or out of the official channel of communication is unprofessional (and other arguments against not official channels).

 

Cheers Raúl Isaí